Getting a puppy Dobie

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Hi, I just joined here. We are getting our new female Doberman in three weeks,{puppy.} I will be training her for my Service Dog. This is our situaion, we have a 3 year old male Min~Pin, he is very loving toward my husband and me, as well as our  female Chihuahua. I don't really know how to describe him, we have gone to 3 different training facilities and he learned sit, say, ect. Bottomline...he HATES people, and barks at everything that comes in our yard. How do I keep him from "influencing" our new Dobie. She is our first Doberman, please advise me. Thank you!
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Hi and Welcome!!  How exciting to be getting a new puppy!  I too have min pins and boy oh boy do they love to bark.  He not only barks at everything that comes in the yard, but across the street, on the other side of the fence, whatever is interesting.  He can only see out front if he's sitting on my bed and the drapes are open, so it's not that bad.  But, that is the nature of that breed, I've read it a hundred times LOL.  However, my min loves everybody (the new rescue female doesn't tho, but she has issues)  so my situation isn't the same.  So far, his barking hasn't influenced my dobe pup who is now 6 mos. old.  She'll lift her head or look around if he's barking, but then generally just ignores it, unless there's something obvious like somebody at the door.   The way I see it is, the min pin sounds the alarm and the doberman will do the heavy lifting if need be.

Again, welcome, we can't wait to see pictures!

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Nice to meet you Happydance!! That's a relief to hear!! I'm already brushing up with Loren's manners, he sits and does leave it really good, it's just the barking and the people hating..LOL! We don't a problem, after our guests are here for awhile, he usually settles down. We don' take him in public, because he is guarding me and that's when he shows himself the most. I'm not sure that he wouldn't bite. I'm really excied about our new babe though, lots of training ahead, as she will my service dog. Thank you!!! Can't paste her pic, she's still with the breeder.

 

 

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I have three Miniature Schnauzers as a result of my late sisters influence. We were watching the Westminster Dog Show one time and when they got to the breed description of the Min. Schnauzer they used the term "talkative". We laughed because we realized that was the code word for "yappy". They too bark at anything, including the wind.

Now during the 14 years I have had the Schnauzers, I have had a number of Dobies, and my current two came into the house as puppies (currently an almost 8 year old red male and a 2 year old red female) and neither can be described as "yappy". Being yappy is a charastic of small dogs, expecially the terrier group. However, large dogs by nature are more discerning.

Now if there is something going on outside, expecially if the large dogs across the road bark, Red will bark several times to let them know he is here, but never carries on. Princess will bark on occassion, but again not often. Now if they are out back and I come around the corner of the house from the front and they hear me but can't see me, I get barked at, but that is desired action.

I would not be overly worried about the Dobie becoming overly "talkative" as it is really not in their nature, and unlikely to be learned behavior from the others.

Welcome to the forum.

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Hello rgreen4, good to meet you! This makes me feel so much better. Yes, Loren is VERY "talkative", LOL! I just posted a pic of her, we are sill trying to decide on her name. We will travel o see her Friday, but she will not be ready to come home for some weeks.

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Welcome to the group, chipindob.  I saw the photo you have in your gallery of the new baby and I can't tell if she is a light red or a fawn.  Which is she?  You'll find that most dober pups dont bark a lot about anything for awhile...I dont think I heard Ziva make an attempt to bark until she was about 11 or 12 weeks old.  She was very attentive and noticed everything, but just didnt see a reason to bark.  My little rat terriers on the other hand are not quiet at all. 

~Paul

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Hello, nice to meet you Ziva's Dad, Paul. She is a fawn, we call it chocolate, same color of our Min~Pin, Loren. We love him so much, I have read all about his breed, but I think some of it is him just being a little boy!! LOL!!  Angie

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I have a 13 year old Sheltie, Angel, who is very yappy. It's the nature of the breed. But my Dobie pup hasn't picked up on it. She barks when she's left in the crate (She is finally getting better with it though!), whenever she's outside and ready to come in, or at Angel when she wants to play and Angel won't play back. Angel, however, barks at the wind, at the leaves, at the creeks of my old house. She's just a yapper. I wouldn't worry about that too much.

 

Welcome, Welcome, Welcomefrom Jensen and Ella Sue!

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HI There Chipndob. welcome to the forum!!

How exciting for you to be getting you new little fawn girl. There are extraordinary and just too lovely for words..

Here's a picture of what she will look like when she's all grown up.

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Welcome Chipindob, from me and Dakota up in Canada!  So glad to have you here!  Have you folks decided on a name yet for your fur baby??  Also you say she will be a service dog - in what capacity? 

I wouldn't worry about the barking issue, like everyone else said!  And you might find the new pup has a positive effect on your min pin, you never know! 

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HELLO, Jensen and Ella Sue, Lady Kate, and Sweatpea & Dakota!!!!!! It's so nice to meet y'all, {yes we are Southern, LOL!} What a gorgeous puptin, is your name Lady Kate, or is that just the user name? We decide our babies name will be Sophie, she's a doll. We'll be going to visit her tomorrow, she's almost 4 weeks, I'll have better pics of her then. It's gonna be so hard to tear ourselves away! ~Angie

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I forgot to say, her service work is for me, I'm diabetic. I currently have Lizzie, a Chihuahua as my service dog. She is getting older, and my neuropathy is getting worse in my legs and feet, so I decided to go with a larger breed,{I have always wanted a Doberman}, as she will be helping me with support as well as alerting me to my blood sugar. It is a chemical smell that she will be trained to pick up on. And, yes I hope she does improve Loren's barking. I'm sure they will enjoy playing together!

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Chipindob, my wife also is diabetic and suffers with neuropathy along with spinal and disc problems in her back.  Our last doberman, Darmok, was never certified as a service dog, but she easily could have been.  She would pick up things that were dropped (keys, sunglasses, gloves, anything that my wife or I would drop accidentally or deliberately) and hand them back to us.  She would stand very still and let my wife gain support when she stood up from sitting in a chair, and she would even take small dishes into the kitchen if we were finished snacking on something in the living room while watching tv.  She was a tremendous help.  I dont think I will ever have another dog like her.  Dar would honestly go get the phone when it rang and bring it to us, or the tv remote when it was across the room.  She was a dream come true.  Sadly, she passed away last September at the age of 6 when she developed several inoperable large cancerous tumors.  I didnt think I would ever want another doberman after her, because there could never be another dog that could ever come close to what she was....but two months after her passing, with only little dogs in my house and I knew I had to find a doberman again.  That's when we found the breeder we got Ziva from.  Z is not anything like Dar was, and I dont expect her to be, but she is, in her own right, just as remarkable in other ways.  You'll be amazed how quickly these dogs learn...it's just getting through those first 6 months to a year that will test your nerves and endurance. LOL.  I'm looking forward to seeing your newest pics of baby Sofie when you go visit this weekend.

Paul

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Well I guess fawn is in season, yay!

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Awww, how precious, God love her!! Thank you so much for sharing, I too suffer with herniated disc, L4 & S1. I also have a umur on the bottom of my spine, I know how your wife feels, bless her heart. I'm so looking forward to training Sophie, I have read and been told how intelligent Dobermans are. You have me curious about the fist 6 months - year though, what should I expect? LOL! Our Min~Pin was a handful, he still barks at everything, and hates people. I so hope Sophie is not like that. I have read and the two breeds are totally different, some people think they are related but they are not. The Min~Pin is an older breed, about 100 years. I'm so glad that y'all had Dar in your lives, how blessed! Loren, our Min~Pin, is a natural, he alerts me often, when my blood sugar drops. I can't take him out in public with me though, for fear he would bite someone, he guards me! I'm looking forward to getting to know y'all and Ziva more!! My husband is excited about this new site too!!  Angie

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D and Evie, nice to meet y'all! FUR sure, fawn is in, I call it chocolate!!!! B{bark}OL!!!!!!!! How gorgeous you are!!!

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You might want to consider changing that. The mahogany red Dobie is almost the exact shade of a chocolate Lab. I have heard some who were not familiar with Dobies call the red a chocolate, but the fawn confuses them - they think at first they are a Wiemaraner, until either they see the rust bow tie on the chest or the ears are cropped.

The fawns when adults get the silvered face that you see in the photos of Ladie Kate's Sophia. Sophia is an excellent example of a fawn when an adult. I was fortunate to have one in the early '80's. She came out of a litter that was all fawns, dame and sire were both fawns, something you are not supposed to do. (Coat and skin issues). However, Heidi never had any problems in that area.

She was also quite a jumper. She could jump vertically standing on all fours about two feet. She would squat down on all fours and then spring upward. My late father used to call her "Leaping Lena". I have never seen another dog do it and don't know where she picked it up.

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Wow Paul, I never knew your last baby was so gifted.  I can only imagine what the transition was like with another puppy instead of an adult dog, and one who was so in tune with you guys.

I wish Sophie the best of luck in her training.  Read up on all the Puppy threads and get ready for the common issues.  This way, you are ahead of the game when you pick up your baby!

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Welcome Chipindob,

Congrats on your new Dobie puppy.  You're in for a lot of fun and love, if you're up to the challenge

I got Freyja at 7 weeks and we started walking together soon afterwards.  As she grew people began asking me if she was going to be my guide dog, since I'm legally blind.  I had never thought of it but it sounded like a good idea.  When no school would take a train her for me I decided I would try to do it myself.  Today at 2 years old she is a big help to me.  I won't say she's perfect but I do a lot better with her help.

I'm a type 1 diabetic as well and she was about 7 months old the first time my sugar went low on our daily walk.  Sonehow we got home and I'm convinced that she played a big part in us making it home, especially since I don't remember the last half of our 3 mile walk.  This has happened a couple other times over the past couple years and Freyja always gets me home when it does.

One recommendation I would make for a service Dobie is to not have her ears cropped.  Without cropped ears a lot of people will not recognize her as a Doberman, thus you will not encounter a lot of the Doberman stereotypes that Freyja and I encounter.  I think I'd have a lol easier time with access if Freyja's ears were floppy.

Good luck in raising and training Sophie.  It is a lot of work but a lot of fun as well.

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Hi and Welcome to the Forum, Chip. My wife and me also have a tea cup yorkie and a shih tzu along with Buddy. The 2 little dogs are yappers but really dont influence BUDDY BEHAVIOR AT ALL. bUDDY  is good in that he knows his training and has a great temperment.. I think you will be fine with the new pup, just start training early and stay consistent.

 

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Ya know when we met Sophie today, and her parents, I realized the difference in fawn. Loren, our Min~Pin, is the true red {chocolate} color. Sophie is GORGEOUS, of course I would say that!! LOL!! Her mom is blue, and her daddy is the fawn color, they do look more silvery. We are so excited about her. The trip, {4 hrs one way}, back was longer than going down, it was hard to leave her. I can't get her pics to load on these threads, only in the gallery. Could you explain it to me? Angie

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Nice to meet y'all Freyja's Dad and nupe! I'm so glad to hear that, thank you for sharing about Freyja, I don't want to crop Sophie's ears, my husband thinks he does, but.... I'll win!! LOL! Buddy, is handsome, so glad I found y'all!! Angie

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My uncles dobes are all trained service dogs. One has always been my aunts dog. She's deaf. Trixie helps her with the door, fire alarm, phone, and kids. They have twin 1.5 yr olds and she lets my aunt know when the babies are crying. He's got two others and they're both certified therapy dogs. trixie is the only cropped, and the others were rescue. Really shows the gentleness of the breed, doesn't it?

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Hi chipindobe; I am so excited for you and can't wait to see pictures of your baby girl.  I think it is good that you are working with her sister on her manners while awaiting Sophie's arrival.  We have Ginger and then Lexie, an American Eskimo.  Lexie is a barker and she can get Ginger going - over nothing.  I just acknowledge it so they know I am paying attention and then tell them "enough."  Enjoy the anticipation; it is so exciting!  You will be an excellent mommy.

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Hi wolfgirl, it sure does! We visited our baby Sophie yesterday, and both parents were well behaved and friendly, even while we held Sophie. We were really impressed, this is our first Dobie, so excited!

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Hello gingersmommy! I have pics of Sophie in her gallery, but I can' get them to post in these threads, could you advise me? Thank you!

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Lady Kate, could you explain to me how to upload pics on these threads? I upload them fine in the pic gallery, but the treads are different, thank you!!

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 SOPHIE & me!!!!! Okay finally, but seemed really hard to do!! And, how do I get them larger?

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Welcome to the forum and congrats on you deciding to get sophie! She's so beautiful :D

 

And about your problem about posting pictures straight to the thread, a lot of us use a photobucket account and use the image link that it provides after you upload the pictures. :3

 

Zelda can walk you through it if you want her to :D

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Awwww, little baby Sofie is adorable! Hold her and hug her as much as you can, cos she definitely will grow faster than you will believe is possible.

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Hello Zelda, you're a doll!! Thank you, I have a PB acct., I guess I'll start using it more. Thank y'all!

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Oh I know, I can't wait untill we can bring her home, Feb 26!!! She's such a sweet baby!!!

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Sophie is adorable!!! They grow fast. Ella is 13 weeks old and I swear she feels 2 lbs. heavier everytime I pick her up.

This is Ella the day I brought her home at 7 weeks old

And this is her last week

 

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YAY I did it!!! Sophie and Daddy Adam!!!

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Hello Jensen8278, nice to meet you! Ella is a darlin', we have to wait until Feb. 26th to bring Sophie home. We can't wait, I see that Dobie's grow so fast!! Sophie will be our first one!!

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They grow like the proverbial weeds until about six months old and then it slows down. Count on her gaining about two pounds a week. If you will compare Sophie in the most recent pictures and the one you are using for your avatar, you will note the growth in her muzzle. Also compare the muzzle of Ella in her picture at 7 weeks and last week. You can almost tell how old a puppy is by the length of their muzzle.

With Dobies, their legs also grow rapidly. In fact sometimes they grow so fast they have been known to have the proverbial growing pains, and limp for no reason for a few days, first on one leg and then another.

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Sofie is so cute!  We are awaiting pictures of puppies from the breeder so we can pick which one and get the ball rolling.  They are 7 weeks old and he does not let them go till they are 10 weeks old so we will still have a 3 week wait.  So, I too am awaiting our new baby.  We can't drive to see ours however because the breeder is halfway across the country and he will be shipped to us.

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Ooppss.. sorry double post to wrong thread

Kate and Sofia

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I'm a little late but welcome to the site and congrats on your new pup! 

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That's so awesome that your getting a puppy! I love puppies!! When I get a doberman, I would love do train my puppy for agility :) I think it's really awesome that your wanting to train it for it to be a service dog! kudos to you! Definitely do a lot of positive training. Dogs respond better to positive feedback then they do at negative. When your chihuahua doesn't bark, praise it! slowly have people come to your house and desensitze your chi by having people come in with some treats and have them toss treats on the ground, that way your chi will think people are good they have treats. Make sure your company doesn't talk to your chihuahua, look, or anything. I love watching it's me or the dog. Victoria Stilwell is amazing!! Hope this helps!

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Oh what a cute little baby. They do grow so fast - take lots and lots of pics cause a big breed grows overnight and it will bring back those baby "aaawwwww" moments when they're grown to have all those pics. Snap snap snap those photos.

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Thank y'all, there's pics of Sophie all over here in different threads!! BOL!