Considering a Doberman

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Hi All,
I joined this forum because you all seemed to be very helpful with information and suggestions when it comes to whether a doberman would be a good fit.

Alittle history: I had a doberman girl puppy that I had taken to my local veterinarian to retape her ears and on the way out of the office I broke my hip, (long story) anyway, I fell on concrete and hit my head, I was unconscious for a long time but when I came to, the first thing I was concerned about was where was my little girl, thank god I still had a death grip on the leash all that time and she was sitting next to me with her little puppy head going side to side in curiousity. I was loaded in the ambulance and due to extenuating circumstances with the hip I was placed on hospice with 6 months to live - well my little dobie girl was being kept by the vet (whom I had worked for, for several years,) as a favor he kept her in house for a month to see if I would be able to take her home however, he had to find her a home but I never saw her again after the day of the injury. That was 1987. Obviously I outlived the 6 month deadline, spent time in a wheelchair, ended up with an amputation and have been on crutches since 1990, during the time 1987-present I have had only collies, a whippet, a rhodesian ridgeback, and a chihuahua. My sister had dobermans for years and I loved them and found them to be quite a comical breed and several friends had them also, one was name Lovey and that was exactly what she was a love bug, but very good at alerting my friend that I was there to visit.

Fast forward to this year. We are interested in a doberman since I am home alone alot and would feel safer with a dog that first off was alert to sounds I can't hear and would alert me and a dog that while out an about would make me APPEAR unapproachable unless I said it was ok. As someone who has spent 21 years on crutches I do feel slightly vulnerable to strangers approaching and would feel alot better if I wasn't quite so approachable. I want to invite people into my space not just have them rush in and remembering the dobermans ability to be super friendly yet respectful of the boundaries of their "owner" would help me to feel better about my vulnerability out in public. Their eagerness to learn and please would make training fun for both of us as I do enjoy training and would take my dog to obedience class first thing and socialize him/her but then to be able to train him/her to maybe carry a small backpack that I could place items in would be exciting for me and the dog. I would be giving the dog a job/duty to perform which I know is rewarding to a doberman. I have trained a young Rottweiler lab mix to heel, much to the surprise of the teacher, at my left crutch instead of leg.

My biggest concern is, as a prospective Doberman parent I have researched and read and read about the need for exercise and I am not entirely sure that I can provide the amount of exercise recommended since I can't run and play, I can't roller blade, or participate in agility etc. But I am home all day and would enjoy a velcro dog. When away I believe in crating for the dog's safety and when away I am gone at most 5 hours and that is one day a week for errands and stuff - but if I could train my dog to become certified to go with me to shop and carry things then we would never be separated and if and when I am gone I make sure I plan around the needs of the critters.

I am one mile from my vet so if there was anything I couldn't handle emergency wise the employees there would come to my house and help me - and once when an adopted stray we had attacked my collie I separated them with my crutches but the collies injuries were so severe he could not walk so I threw down my crutches and I grabbed a blanket drug the collie onto the blanket and then drug myself and my dog up the driveway to the street and yelled for help where one of the neighbors heard me and drove us to the vet, so I am creative about doing what needs to be done.

But I do not want to do a dis-service to a doberman by not being able to provide the exercise or anything else that you guys may bring up as issues.
So can you guys help me bounce around the pros and cons of my having a doberman in my life as an amputee on crutches. I too am aging and around 50 years old so I am slowing down. I understand the prey drive also and that brings up the fact that there are 4 cats and one small dog in the house.

However, knowing how much joy a doberman could bring to my life I need help figuring out if the joy outweighs the hurdles. I just want to do the right thing for the dog, I will get over not having one but the dog won't get over not having the right home.

Thanks for any and all suggestions.

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On another topic, Kate suggested a newfoundland... they are also very protective and very faithful animals. They still need excersize as they are large dogs... but aren't as in need to "run and play" as a dobe but are still very loyal and loving... though you'd proly want a slobber rag in that backpack!!!! lolz  

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Talisin

Thank you for joining our forum and bless you for your courage and spirit.. WOW.. I am stunned to say the least about your experiences.

Have you investigated Assistance Dogs in your area? My husband and did a piece on them a few years back that was televised and I was surprised to find standard poodles as one of the favorites ( besides of course the adored Golden) they are the right height, non allergenic extremely loyal and intelligent. Plus, I think those dogs would take down anyone who would threaten you.. That and the fact that a big dog..period.. is a deterrent..

Good luck and please stay in touch

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Hi,

Wow, answers already. As for a newfie not sure I want all that drool, I have a thing about that much doggy drool, the Ridgeback I mentioned earlier my lord could that dog drool and he didn't have the jowls of the newfie. It gets pretty hot here in the summer too and it's my understanding that newfies do better when it's not so humid and hot, plus wow they are big, my collie is a large dog but sleek where the newfie is a bundle of large. As for labs etc. thought about the retriever thing but they are pretty approachable dogs and I have looked into the service dog organizations and my minor service need of just being around crutches to me seems like I would be taking their staff away from training for the really needy not to mention the waitlist time. However, we have a course here locally where once MY dog passes citizenship I can go with him/her to service classes that way I get to train the dog not a trainer and not feel as if I am taking a trainer away from someone who needs a dog. 

I even thought about training a collie since I have had them all my life but they are really approachable due to the "Lassie syndrome".

Things to consider though, I appreciate the input I will look at the newfie again and see what else you bring up for my consideration.

Thanks, Tal

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You could always go for a pit... they do well in heat... are complete cuddlers... and not everyone will approach. Not as much drool, smaller and very very smart. 

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I forgot to say thanks for the Poodle advice. I can see where they would be a great option, and one I might really look into but I am married and I have to admit even though the standard poodle is a formidable dog breed for certain - my husband has a total aversion to them because of the "poodle syndrome" like the lassie syndrome. He just can't get past the "poodle" part. I have been working on him and other than the word poodle he would be good with it. Interesting how the use of one word can affect some people. I guess we can thank the dog shows for the poodle cut in making it seem like a less than active working dog. My husband grew up with labs and farm dogs so poodle to him would be a stretch. But who knows....

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Hey I have considered a pitt in the past as a companion but I hadn't really thought about the pit for my current purpose, but you make a good point, will look into them also. I think the hardest part of that would be finding a reputable provider of a pup or dog, any suggestions on that?

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talisin, first off, I want to say how much I totally admire your strength and courage, not to mention your creative actions when your collie was injured.  (APPLAUD)  I am quite a bit older than you say you are, and have bad knees so I can assure you that I do NOT run, jog, or otherwise wear my old self out just so my dog gets the exercise she needs.  There are so many ways around that.  When Ziva started getting to the age that she needed more than just a romp through the yard with the other dogs, I would take her to the baseball fields where it's securely fenced to let her run, chase a ball, chase a stick, chase birds, etc.  I also rigged up a 'long line' by using a 50 ft clothesline that I attached a heavy duty metal swivel snap to and that way I could let her run, while I walked at my own pace, but still have complete control of where she went and when she came back to me....that was how I trained her 'recall'.  Now that she has a very good recall, I can take her to open fields and let her run off some energy and I know that she wont run off and not come back. In fact, if I dont call her to me every few minutes, she will come back on her own, just to check in, which I reward her big time for doing.  Exercise is important, no, it's absolutely necessary for these dogs, but just because you have a disability that prevents you from running or climbing mountains, there are many ways to still give your dog the exercise it needs.

I got Ziva when she was 8 weeks old and we already had small terriers as part of the family and she adjusted very well to being another little dog, even when she grew to be 10 x their size and weight.  I dont have cats (not a cat person) but if you get a pup or an older doberman (rescue sites are chock full of good dogs that need homes) that grew up with cats around, it's absolutely possible for them to co-exist.  My sister in law has 4 dobermans (one belongs to her daughter who is currently staying there too) and she also has 3 cats....the dogs have learned to ignore the cats for the most part. Prey drive is high with this breed, but so is intelligence, and they can be trained to accept a cat or small dogs as part of the family....the "pack".

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I honestly suggest research, research, research. always use a reputible breeder or rescue. I also suggest contacting your local rescue to get a pup or finding another forum that deals with the breed of your choice... like you did with us!!!  Just keep us posted and up to date on what you decide!!! 

Good dobervibes and lovins your way!!

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I know the "poodle syndrom" that you talk about.. My guy shares the same malady with yours..

Although if he's not groomed like the topiary trees ( the dog, not your husband) you might be able to disguise him as a big, fluffy, nonshedding, smart dog. I really really like the standards. I too have had collies.. a total of four.. wonderful dogs!

Oh Tali... there are so many wonderful dogs out there just waiting to come live with you and protect you... You sound like an awesome person and a great mom.

Paul.. when neither one of us can run for whatever reason.. we attach Sofia to a halter and hook her up to either a bike or a golf cart and let her fly... Still cannot just let her go.. not even at the beach.. as she once chased a seagull toward the highway a half  mile away. it was one of the scariest moments with her ever.. The wind just took our voices away and she couldn't even hear us call  her.. ALWAYS on a leash now..

But when she gets tired.. it's "Driving Miss Daisey"

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I have a million things to say but am limited to the iPhone.

Just with your story, you sound strong, determined, experienced.

A puppy might be a big obstacle but I say you could easily own a Doberman. If you task your dog and make him /her your service dog you are giving that energy a place to escape, I think anyway. I know a few people have trained their dobermans as service dogs.

A lab / golden are high energy dogs but te RIGHT temperment makes a great guide dog.

Contact some breeders with your story and if they can match a personality to you and your needs..

Best friend an protector you'll ever have!

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 My uncles dobes are all trained service dogs. One has always been my aunts dog. She's deaf. Trixie helps her with the door, fire alarm, phone, and kids. They have twin 1.5 yr olds and she lets my aunt know when the babies are crying. He's got two others and they're both certified therapy dogs. trixie is the only cropped, and the others were rescue. Really shows the gentleness of the breed, doesn't it?

 

Copied over from other post... covers it all. lolz

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Talisin - I also am older & have bad knees - like Ziva's Dad I get Brinks & Lady's exercise in other ways than running, climbing, etc.  My backyard isn't fenced (yet) but my neighbor's is & she lets me take them over everyday to run, romp & play.  Brinks loves to chase tennis balls & I found a "flinger" (actually I think it's called a chucker) at WalMart for $8. that saves my shoulder alot of wear & tear.  Like ZD & Nupe I take them to the tennis courts occasionally & hit some balls for them to chase.  As creative as you are I bet you can find lots of ways to give a dobe some exercise.

I also want to chime in on the rescue dobe.  I'm not sure you would want to go thru the housebreaking time with a great, galloping galoot!  A small breed can be trained on "puppy pads" or easily scooped up to take outside.  A dog that can double or triple it's weight in a couple of months isn't so easily scooped!  (Brinks was 7 lbs when we got him at 6 weeks - at 6 months he weighed 62 pounds...)  A rescue or re-home will probably be past the housebreaking stage & will take very little time to learn where the potty place is (it will be easier for you to keep the yard clean if they use only one spot to poo & pee).  There are a couple of great doberman rescue groups in NC that can help you. 

IMHO a dobe would be perfect for you.  They are great service dogs, some are wonderful therapy dogs, Regan is a search & rescue dog, Freyja helps her owner in all kinds of ways...  I don't think there is anything they can't do - except maybe sled dog & I wouldn't bet $$ against that!

Don & I were discussing this as I typed the above & he suggests a female (I think it's just because he prefers female dogs...) due to their earlier maturing & "calming down" from puppyhood ways.  I have to admit that MiLady has a much calmer temperment than Brinks but to me that is just the difference in their "personalities"...

Good luck & please let us know what you decide...

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First off Welcome to Forum. I am actually torn reading your initial post. On one hand a Dobie will definmitely be a deterant on the other hand they do have a exercise urge they need to fill. Have you considered a Rotty? They will definitely be a deterent , also and wont have the same exercise requirement (in my Humble opnion) as a Dobe would. I am not saying with some training you would not be able to exercise a Dobie, but might be easier with  rotty. I owned 2  Rottys before Buddy...so just speaking from a little experience I have had with both breeds. I found the Rottweilers to be a little more laidback than a Dobie, but love the Dobies fast learning curve (see told you I was torn ..lol)...once again wELCOME TO THE fORUM,,,AND LET US KNOW WHAT EVER YOU DEDCIDE TO DO!!!, These are some really good people here!!, SO STOP BY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS!!!:)

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There was one of our members who solved the exercise of their Doberman in a very innovative way. They trained him to a treadmill. After a while, the dog would get on the treadmill and wait for one of his humans to come and turn on the machine.

I will see if I can find the post showing that.

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thanks so much for the input. I had just about decided if I got a dobe that it would be a female for the same reasons mentioned above.

I truly appreciate the remarks about the exercise factor.  We do have a few contained areas not many, in fact one was used with permission by the greyhound,whippet groups to course them but when I was there the police showed up and forced them to leave regardless cause as far as they were concerned dogs were not allowed in that area, not sure what has happened there. But worth checking out again.

And yes I have contacted numerous dobe rescues and only one in NC will adopt out to my area and there are only two. And it was the most horrible experience - I filled out the app it got lost, waited, emailed, emailed, etc. was told I had gotten confused with another client, then finally got the "send photos of yard/house" which I did immediately and then nothing, emailed 5 times to see if the pics got received even sending the pics each time I asked, then an email came in that sounded strange asking me if I had an aversion to service dogs, send pictures of all my dogs around me to prove crutches were not an issue for them, send pics of me with the neighbors and their dogs to prove same, I wrote back that all but 2 of my dogs were deceased but that I would be happy to get their ashes down and have them and the 2 current dogs with me for a pic. That apparently was not something to offer as the woman got hateful and snappy and said she didn't have time for my kind of sarcasim, I tried to explain that it wasn't meant that way I only meant that most people do not go to the financial cost to have their babies cremeated and returned - I do - and I thought it might help ease her fears and show that they all meant that much to me and she basically said I was lying about how I meant it etc. etc. It was a horrible conversation. Finally in the end I think I got her to realize I am just a person who loves their animals as much as people and do not separate the depth of that love according to species. She said she would see what she could do, but my gosh it was such a traumatic experience it has taken the joy out of offering a home to a rescue in my area. Yet this is the only rescue we can work with. Whew. Nothing like wanting to give a good home to a needy dog and have to fight for it.

I have contacted other area rescues and no one adopts out of state, and I fully understand that. I volunteer for a rescue and we insisted on in house checks etc. but I was hoping. I contacted one rescue that had a dobe with a neurological issue and a deformed skull said she was laid back didn't need alot of exercise due to the head issue, loved cats, and other dogs, crate trained, all the things I needed and I thought - I found my girl - but they won't adopt to my area. My whippet had neurological issues he had been electrocuted as a puppy by his first owners neglect, we adopted him at 2 yr. and at 5 he developed issues requiring weekly trips to the vet for non-invasive spinal therapy, I took him every week for 8 years he passed at 13 so the dobe girl's issues were of no concern, I am experienced with that and was willing.I Loving all the help it has my mind working. The exercise input has made me feel alittle better about even thinking about a dobe. A rotty could work but we have that drool factor again, hahahahaha, the dog I actually trained to heel next to my crutch was part rotty and he is laid back.

I am loving all the input about the exercise that has my mind working and the rotty idea is great, the dog I taught to heel next to my crutch was part rotty. But we have that drool thing again, hahahaha.....

It was funny we had a neighbor who had standard poodles and my husband finally got see them and they did not have that fluff puff cut and he said what are those dogs? I told him and he said you're kidding..... but he still won't consider that one, go figure.

Thanks for welcoming me and I will be in and out of the site for a long time, I have never seen such a compilation of beautiful dobermans in one place. I have been clicking into the photo pages of some of you and your dogs are gorgeous and have beautiful coats and structure. Bravo, I found a great doberman site, one that cares about the breed and the emotional well being too,

 

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Hello and Welcome!  I was thinking the same thing about a treadmill, I saw on a TV show the other day that they actually make DOG ones!  I'm thinking that if you could find a private trainer in your area that could be sensitive to your situation, that would help too.  But, and I just have to throw this in, I had a Golden Retriever that I rescued, ( bad sickening situation) that was soo happy to have a home that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that that dog would have defended me to the death.  She showed us withing a few days of having her, but that's another story for another time.  Good luck on whatever your decision is, and of course, keep us posted!!

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ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR YOUR STRENGTH AND COURAGE....

That being said- You seem like you are heading in the right direction.. Your needs can be fufilled in so many different breeds.. that is what is so wonderful about dogs... Dobes I agree w/ you can find different ways to exercise and I think alot of dobers need mind exercised as much as the body... so with being your service dog that will be a big plus... agree w; nupe rottie great option... akitas (american not japanese) also one to consider... think Helen Keller.... Akitas were one of the first true ervice dogs... any of the bigger working breeds would be a great option imo... you just have to find the one that is right for you... like others have said please keep in touch no matter what you choose. you are a great inspiration and I look forward to hearing more of your story... God bless

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I love all you guys!!! you have made me feel so welcome and let me just think out loud with a keyboard which in itself is helpful.

As a couple of you have suggested I have been checking out rotties and checked in the rottweiler rescue sites here in NC and did find an interesting girl Kee Kee Dee her foster parent said she would be a good therapy dog so I have sent a quick few questions her way about why she feels so strongly about that and a little bit about not wanting to frighten a dog that may have abuse issues in their memory. Kee Kee didn't seem to come from a questionable background her owner had a stroke and had to turn her over. And we all know that pitts, and rotties have been chosen as a dog to brutally harm in body and spirit by vicious people that I need to be careful of not pulling out that fright/bite memory, I have found crutches either immediately cause aggressive behavior or not. I can go to dog events and there will be a handful of dogs that want to eat me alive just because of the appearance of the "sticks" at which point I have to breath and behave as if nothing is wrong. Hard but can be done, but the rest ignore them.  I usually put the crutches on the ground and let the dog greet me without them, get to sniff me etc. then I pick up the crutches and the dog sees they are a part of me and that usually works.

I did think about an akita early on but haven't pursued that end, I have just always favored the doberman and wanted to start there, they do have a piece of my heart and it would be great to find one that fit the bill. It's not like I have to have a dog for a purpose and need one now, I just wanted to find the right doberman and go from there.

And as weird as it might seem, since I have been a special needs whippet mom, I got a call yesterday from the rescue organization I used to work for and they have an old whippet (10) who loves cats and dogs and needs to get out of rescue and into a home to live out his last couple of years and they thought I might be a good mom for that, they said no one is even slightly interested in him due to his age, turns out he is really an Italian Greyhound, I agreed to visit him tomorrow to crutch test him and if that pans out I will be placing my dobe hunt on hold to devote my time to Cloudy and his last years. I am here for the critters - whoever and whatever they need and he needs me and so far after almost a year there isn't a dobe yet; so, I am willing to wait on my dobe if this old man needs a quiet home for his last years, they all deserve to feel love before they transition over. It will be up to Cloudy whether he wants to come to us or not.

I will let you know how it goes, I will see him late afternoon. They said they were attached to him so they may decide not to let him go, we shall see.

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How are you posting full photos here, I have tried and failed. I am tech savy but this one leaves me needing help. Thanks

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from talisin: How are you posting full photos here, I have tried and failed. I am tech savy but this one leaves me needing help. Thanks

Most of use photobucket (it's a totally free photo hosting site) and copy/paste the [IMG] code straight into the message area,  but you can also add a photo from your computer by clicking on the image icon here in the reply box....5th icon from the right, top row. I've done it that way a time or two, but I cant remember exactly what the steps involved were.  For me, photobucket is easier because I've done it that way a lot more.

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All I can say is wow!  Welcome to this site.....whether you decide on a dobe or not you will always be welcome here.

I commend your spirit and it really sounds like you have a knack with animals.  As far as having a doberman, my opinion is kinda on the fence.  One one side I think dobermans are amazing dogs and I think they are capable of anything including being a service dog, like one of our members Freyja.  But on the other hand I am not sure how you would be able to chase after a tightly bound ball of energy given your situation.  I think you should try finding a well behaved adult that needs rehomed (I read about your rescue situation so maybe try looking outside the rescue box and see if there is a family looking to rehome their cute little puppy that grew up to be an 80lb eating machine).  Also, keep looking into the service dog idea....you would get a dog that would be able to help you with anything you need, minus the puppydom and I guarantee that even if it was a lab that dog would protect you with his or her life.  I suggest you read a book called "a dog named slugger" its about a girl and her service dog.

Once again welcome to the forum

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Thank you "control freak", you have some of the same concerns I have. I had to laugh out loud about the eating machine remark, too funny. Puppydom I agree would be a challenge that would create a very mischievious companion especially without the ability to physically walk into the dog's sight and become a guiding influence. My whippet knew when I went to the mailbox that it would take me a certain amount of time to get there and he knew I would turn around at least once to see if he was standing in the front doorway, so he would wait for me to look then he would run off to eat the cat food and when I got to the mailbox and could see him again he would be arriving back at the door with that "I have been here all the time just waiting for yooooouuu" look - so yes the inability to rush over and do a redirection/correction in person would create a little monster, albeit an entertaining monster.  And it's hard to get your point across when you can't contain the laughter. So puppy is not the way to go I agree. 

 ' Will look up the book, I got a kindle the other day maybe its available for it....

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awesome video nupe!

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Love that video and one of my favorite songs....Edited just right to the songs nuances.

who's video is that? Is that yours??

I haven't been here but a week now I think - so I am not familiar with who is who and what dog is who's etc.

In the video I liked the approach of black dobe with "I will help you with your stuff but can I play with it first pleeeese", attitude that was endearing. Kudos to the red dobe for withstanding all that play energy as long as she could. Love it.

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no not my dogs...saw it on You Tube...and just liked it and wanted to share with you guys. Here is my boy....

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I made contact with SnoopyDobe and have permission to post this image of Snoopy on the Treadmill.

What a great deal for rainy nasty days.

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I personally love the tread mill idea.  My mom is too scared to take her own dogs out on walks in their neighborhood for fear of attacks from coyotes and mountain lions (she's on the base of a mountain) and I keep trying to get her to do this option for her terriers.

If we had the space, I'd buy one for Steve for those rainy days!!  As it is I will take him out so long as its not freezing cold rain.

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Nupe... thanks for the vid.. loved it.. especially liked the ending where the black dobie did the hip check before it sat down.. Sofia is big on hip checks

What color is Buddy??.Sometimes I think he's red, but other times he looks a little darker. Beautiful coat.. RAW seems to really be working for him.

we're headed out on the golf cart to let La Diva run, have a glass of vino and enjoy the sunset..hope to get some pictures to post for y'all.

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Hi Talisin! 

I'm coming in a little late on this thread but all I can say is WOW, your story blew me out of the water.  You obviously have an extreme amount of strength, courage and determintation.  I think a dobe would be PERFECT for you and I have no doubt that you will come up with a solution for the exercise aspect, especially after all the creative suggestions that have been given here!  That story about your collie demonstrates your ingenuity for sure!!  Not to mention the LOVE you have for all your fur babies.  So sorry to hear about your terrible experience with that one rescue place.  How ignorant of that woman to give you such a hard time when there are so many deserving dogs that need a good home! 

I have a female (Dakota) and she's getting more mellow now at the age of only 8 months...she could run and play all day outside but she is also content to chill out in the house with a bone and some toys that I can play fetch with down the hall while doing homework on the couch lol.  I haven't had a male dobe so I don't have anything to compare it to but she has a fairly calm tempermant for a puppy IMO, and as Dabbles also mentioned that with Milady maybe there is something to that?

I noticed that german shepherds haven't been mentioned on here yet, but they are also highly trainable and have that intimadation factor that a golden, a lab or a poodle may be lacking.  Something to consider if you decide not to go with a dobe!(Although I totally think you should!!)  :)

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DEFINITELY RED kATE..

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Thank you Sweetpea.

Nupe handsome boy!!

I would like to share something with you guys, being dobers you should appreciate the story. I am very intuitive and trust any "dream" that I have at least 3 times as long as it is almost identical in playout. Anything less than 3 and I let it go.

That said - for over 2 weeks, that's of course 14 days - heck of alot more than 3, for 14 days I had a dream in which it was dark and I was walking along a nice rock walkway towards a large castle type building as I approached the gate I noticed all this movement around me on the grounds and all over the place were Black/rust dobermans having a grand ole time playing I enjoyed watching them for a little while and then started for the gate again but this time a dog came running up to me and I looked down and it was a red doberman girl - I laughed so hard even in reality (I usually know when I am dreaming and I am aware that I can stay or wake) so here I am laughing in the dream and in reality cause I looked down at her feet and she had on red hightop tennis shoes on all four feet, I said "well aren't you spiffy" and she said (yep she talked) she said "Hi, I am YOUR dobie girl" I said what do you mean she said "haven't you been looking for me? here I am" then she turned and went to play but looked back and said again "I am your dobie girl, I will be waiting right here for you don't leave without me" then off she went to play. I stood still in my dream and told myself to remember this whole thing; when I woke right after, I wrote it all down and thought it all over and decided that I had been looking into service dogs but couldn't find one or an organization that didn't have years of wait list, then it hit me - there was probably a red dobe girl out there that would fit my needs I just had to look for her like she said - I did figure that I would NOT find her with four red high top tennis shoes although that would be hysterical, then I wondered if it meant that she would be used to muttluks.....or it could just represent the little red vest that working dogs wear and tennis shoes represent working hard on your feet. Whatever it meant I figured I was supposed to begin my hunt for a red dober girl and that's how I ended up this past year trying to find one and someone willing to adopt to me......

So I have been excited about looking my dobe girl and then to have that rescue treat me that way it was just horrible.

I have heard again from the Rottweiler foster parent and I will be taking my collie and chihuahua down in a couple of weeks to meet the rottie and see how that goes. During which time she will be backpack training her and crutch testing her and anything else she says I might be able to think of, what a wonderful person to work with. And the girl is a doll she may not be full rottie but I won't know till I really get to see her in person. Here is a link to her:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/herb/sets/72157625933164056/show/

See what you think.

Talisin

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She has a real sweet face, and will probably make a good one.

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Love that last picture of her smiling for the camera.. Lots of love in those eyes..

"Sweet Dreams"

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God love you!! We have just got a new baby Dobe, Sophie. I will be training her as well as other trainers to take the place of my current Service Dog. I did so much research on the Doberman breed, they are highly intelligent. I am disabled as well, I have severe neuropathy in my legs and feet along with 2 blown disc, therefore I needed a larger breed for support as well as notification of my blood sugar falling. I wish you well, and I do want you to know, the ADA {Americans w/ Disabilities Act} of 1990 clearly makes it know that you DO NOT have to have your SD certified or registered. Now having said that, I did register Lizzie with S.A.R.A. & U.S.S.D.R.A., only because of my beliefs. I think it makes it easier for people to recognize, and it is courteous to others. This is a great debatable issue ammoung the disabled. Some are adamant about their rights in not having to do so. I can tell you, I'm not the popular party of these two agendas. Best wishes!!!

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Thank you Chipindob, that is very helpful.

As I have gotten older I guess my body is throwing a rebellion to all the "abuse" it took in a wheelchair for 3 years and on crutches these past 21 years. At my young age I ended up with osteoporosis and without realizing it found I through an x-ray for something else that I had back fractures. I knew I was getting slower and not lifting my one foot as high and just felt like I had a 2-ton weight hanging on my lower back. That's when I thought about a service dog. I used to carry groceries in by carrying a plastic bag draped on each finger on each hand - realized in the past year I can't do that anymore, I have to take my cloth bags and carry one in each hand on 3 fingers and it takes me twice as long to do the laps back and forth. Now my purse is causing the tendon in my left elbow to burn and hurt all the time, so when I had those dreams constantly about the dobe and how eager she was to "be there" I started to realize a dog might be my answer. If I didn't have to carry my purse, and if I could take her to the store where she could keep me safe from falls from other people running into me it would be great. It used to be that I laughed about the fact that if anyone ran into me it would hurt them more than me cause I was so stable/sturdy I would have been like running into a brick wall, but not now.

I will have to look into the agencies you mentioned, I agree having a certified dog makes it more agreeable to all and easier to function in places that might not recognize the dog otherwise. Glad to hear you have another baby to work with - you will have to share pics and stories of how it progresses.... Thanks again.

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I think she has the potential in what you're looking for.  Having worked in Veterinary Hospitals for years, I have to admit that I'm not a great fan of male Rotties. But,  we had a few females that came in that were the most awsome dogs, sweet, stoic, loving and trusting dogs.  I've more than once had a facewash by a female Rott.  The males... been thrown across the room on an ear cleaning, had to do hip X-rays without sedation or muzzle--not pretty.  (Who would want an OFA X-Ray without a quick sedation?  We can tweek the legs in and make it look as good as it can be--, besides being rejected by OFA and having to do a "do-over") anyway, I degress.  I think a female rottie like that girl might just be the ticket for you.  Ask about her energy level, barking, etc. I'm sure that you will find just the right dog for you, you are dedicated to doing so.

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Oh my yes, I remember those days.  We had a male doberman named Blackjack as a client and everytime his owner made an appt. for him we had to schedule all employees to be on deck and cleared the lobby and all exam rooms in case he got away from his owner. (can we say bad owner) anyway, we had to distract him in front while the doctor gave him an injection in the butt to calm him in order to even get close to him to vaccinate or examine. You have my sympathies on the x-ray part.

At least I didn't let that taint my view of dobermans, :)) We didn't have but one rottie back then as a client. At that time they were unusual to see in this area. But dobermans were everywhere as were shepherds.

I intend to ask about storm fear, barking etc. today since just had severe storms move through last evening and the collie lost his mind.  It reminded me to ask those questions. And the collie I have is a barker at everything outside the fence we have, don't need more of that. The vet has determined that his brain misfires when he lets out that first bark, it takes just touching one hair to get him to stop but you have to redirect his nerves to tell the brain something other than what his eyes are seeing. Poor guy at 11 he must be tired of it himself. I have never seen a collie hunker down and launch himself off his back feet to get a stronger bark out and I have never seen a collie charge a fence with teeth bared like he is going to jump it and kill somebody, he runs full speed then he slides to a stop like a barrel racing horse, twisting his tail to slow down the whole time barking at the kids outside the fence but if you let the kids in he would lick them to death. Only collie in 50 years that I have had that ever did this.

Thanks for the encouragement.