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Some of you know, I've been looking for a female partbred pup to come and fill the hole in our lives after losing my beloved Libby at age 14 1/2.

I've been watching Craig's List, looking to give a pup a good home that might otherwise not have one. Two weeks ago, I thought I'd found one - Dobe/Rott female, 12 weeks old. I inquired, and was told they had to give her up because the husband had suddenly found a lot of work, and their babysitter didn't want to mess with the pup, and she was in a crate all day long. The pup had NO shots. I backed out at the last minute, not wanting to expose my Aussie to anything.

And this week, guess what comes up? A Rott/Dobe pup 80 miles away. 13 weeks old. Not a lot of information, but when I asked, I couldn't believe what I read. SAME DARN STORY. Gee, she got the pup from a guy in the same town as the last ad (she most likely did!), and now she just found a job working 40 hours a week, and (can you believe it?) the babysitter doesn't want to mess with the pup, and she's in a crate all day long. Again, no shots.

It's just so sad. This woman is flipping this pup for $25. She doesn't care about the puppy. She can't even make up an original story. She just wants to make $25 dollars.

ACCCCCKKKKKKKKK.

For those of you looking for a pup to give a good home to, please look carefully. Ask for proof of vaccination(s) and vet papers saying the dog has been examined by a vet.

If I didn't have Gabe, I'd take a chance on this pup, and take her right to my vet. But that is not an option. My responsibility is to Gabriel, and we will wait for a pup that someone cares about enough to take good care of them until they can find them a home.

And in the meantime, I pray for this pup.

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Ok so let me get this right, your dog is already vaccinated and you are worried the pup will make him/her sick? If she is selling the pup for 25 dollars surely you can afford the vaccinations, I know they are not expensive. I guess what I am confused with is, do you want to rescue a dog or you just want a mutt that is cheap and already has been taken care of? The pups both need good homes and just because the careless owners didn’t vaccinate them does not make them insta death to your dog. You have it backwards, the pup is at risk of catching something, and your dog is not.

 

 I am not trying to come off as angry Kim, I just dont get exactly what you want.

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But...butbutbut, what if these people are just plain old puppy flippers? Extensions of the original greeder? Although, of course she would love to "rescue" the pups so she could give them a better life, she would be feeding the greeder fire. If that is indeed the case. I mean, two of the same stories, all around the same location? Sounds fishy to me. 

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Ronan, what I'm not happy about, and what wasn't clear, I guess, is exactly what Abigail said.

Puppy flipper. THAT'S what I am upset about. Neither of these people, if in fact they are two different people, cared enough to take care of the pup. Originally, the pup sold, supposedly, for $25. And now the price is $50. With the same story, and still no shots. That pup could come into this house with all kinds of problems even if it DID have its puppy shots - which is all the more likely because it doesn't.

I don't want to "feed" a flipper. And that's what upsets me - they are passing this pup around like it is a baseball trading card.

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 Sorry guys I was tired last night and didnt notice the part about the "puppy mill" refrence. I sometimes get my puppy blinders on and dont fully digest what is being said. Well I agree that those who abuse the dogs (mutiple breedings for pure profit) should not be supported; sometimes I just worry for the pups.

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Ronan, I'm with you on this one, my heart goes out to the puppy but I can fully understand not wanting to feed the greeders.    But still those poor pups, I hope they end up in a good forever home.

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What a horrible circumstance for those puppies to end up in.  They go to a home, thinking that will be their 'family' just to end up going somewhere else, and possibly somewhere else after that.  And the final owner will wonder why the pup has 'issues'.  Makes me so mad.

I got my little DJ from someone who bought her then decided that having a puppy, a toddler, and being pregnant was just too much stress----so they asked me if I would consider taking her before they listed her on Craigslist.  Aaacckkk!  I can't imagine where DJ might have ended up or how many homes she might have went to and gone from. 

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I was also upset because I've been looking for a pup for a while now. And not once, but twice, I got my hopes up, was ready to open my heart to another dog again, and had it turn out like this. Same thing, twice in a row. Gotta be a lesson in that somewhere for me.

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I know you dont want to support a "greeder" but sometimes you just have to do what your heart tells you. At 25 bucks a pup, they cant be in it for the money imo 25 dollars wont buy anything these days (1 small bag of kibble?) I know I am a softy when it comes to dogs.(my wife sometimes thinks I am mad) I would have paid for it then turned it over to the Illinois Doberman rescue while fostering it in my home.

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Ronan, it wouldn't be just about the money, but the mentality! Give a mouse a cookie, he'll ask for some milk. One of the things that make puppy flippers work is that they sell their "wares" cheaper than normal, so people will say "you just have to do what your heart tells you. At 25 bucks a pup, they cant be in it for the money imo 25 dollars wont buy anything these days" 

How do discount stores function? They sell cheap so they can sell MORE. Over and over and over again. 

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Same thing goes with pet stores.  It is sad to see those puppies behind the glass window and you want to save them, but all it does is reward the pet stores and the puppies mills.  Your dollars speak louder than anything else and as long as you don't buy from pet stores, byb's, etc you are making a statement that what they are doing is unacceptable.

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I am sorry but think about the math..

If you sold 25 dollar puppies.... you would need to sell 32 to make rent at 800 dollars a month. it very well could be; that said litter was a major accident and people are trying to get rid of them.

If they had 10 puppies at 25 dollars each that would eb a grand total of 250 dollars. I am sorry but if they had business acumen sure they could re-invest said 250 for more free puppies and resell them but lets be real, too much work and risk. Risk of losing your dog and risk of never selling the mixed breed.

IMO not everyone who sells a cheap pup might be a greeder, try calling and saying you would rescue it for free and see what happens?

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In Canada we have kijiji, which is a free classified site, and they recommend a nominal price for every pet, to ensure the recipent has a genuine interest in the animal....no one makes money charging $25/pup....

kijiji is in the United States as well.

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Thanks, everybody, for your thoughts.

Having had some time to think about this, I still think I made the right decision, despite feeling sad for the pup.  The girl that had her wasn't honest about things from the get-go - there were just too many red flags about it. She sent back one e-mail, stating the pup needed to go by that night. I didn't reply, and two days later, she posted that the pup had found a forever home. I hope that's true.

And thanks for the tip on kijiji - I haven't heard about it, but will check it out.

your right to follow your gut instinct, its there for a reason. You will find the right puppy soon :)