Lucian's ear cropping update

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As I said before my lil dobie was getting his ears cropped last Friday.  I ended up choosing the long show cut and I was able to pick him up Saturday.  I was surprised that his ears were not posted. The vet stated that I will have to tug upright on Lucian's ears a few times a day and gave me a kit to keep the cut and his ears clean.  Lucian will be having his ears posted on the 26th of this month when the stitches are removed.  I was just wanting to ask if anybody else's vet did this same practice.  A lot of the pics I see on here the ears are already posted so I guess I thought that that was common practice.  Either way I am happy with how his ears turned out I guess the hard part will be when the actual posting is done.  I will be posting new pics soon!

 

 

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Jena

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"Some veterinarians believe in posting and taping the ears up immediately while others prefer to let them hang until the wounds heal. If your veterinarian sends your puppy home without wrappings, keep the stitches clean and dry. Also, treat them daily with Aloe Vera gel or with a treatment provided by or suggested by your vet. Neosporin, Bactine, or Cortisone cream can all be helpful." - See Ear Cropping link in the first upper left box above.

However, I've always understood the cropped ears are posted right after the initial cut.

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I've had puppies come home both ways. Most of the time though the vet didn't want to irritate the wounds with dressing. The few times the puppy did come home with posted ears, they were posted creatively in a way that didn't cover the stitches.

I look forward to the photos!

A good cropper will post the pups ears on a cup right after surgery. They are usually glued to the cup and the edges are left open to air and heal properly. I think it is much harder for the puppies ears to heal properly when they are left to shake the head, hit the tips and edges on things. Not to mention they kind of take on a shriveled look because they are not stretched as they should be. It is more uncomfortable for the puppy to have his ears stretched in the manner that your vet told you to do versus them being stretched on a cup, but it is important that you do stretch them. The reason it is more uncomfortable is you are taking a raw edge and stretching it a few times a day or whatever they told you to do versus the ear being put on the cup from the start and allowed to heal in the proper position.

I know many people on this list have had the puppies come home just like this and don't experience any problems. Cropping is not taught in vet school and it is a fine art. Unfortunately most vets really don't get the art of it and they don't always do what is easier on the dog. I'm sure you puppy will be just fine as all the others on here have been. I'm only posting this for others that hopefully as they read through old posts of cropping might be able to see that there are other ways to do things that are easier on the puppies and to research before cropping.

Here is an example from our last litter. This was taken just before stitches were taken out. The cups are a little tattered from playing with eachother and poor Romeo the red collared boy was always the one being picked on and his cup needs retaping in this photo . Although the photo doesn't show the side view you can see that there is no need to tie anything under the chin.  The cup rests comfortably on top of the head, with added padding for comfort. The ears are glued to the cup then a piece of tape is taped on the ear (this does not cover any stitches however, they are left open to air and heal) We always put neosporin on the healing edges this helps to keep them soft and the stitches are easier to take out.

 

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Thanks for all of your replies!  All of your information was really helpful.  Lucian's ears are healing very nicely and I have been pulling on the ears like the vet told me to do.  I have had to place a muzzle on Lucian when I do this because he bites very hard when I pull on his ears which is understandable because it probably hurts him.  I know all of this will benefit him in the end.  I would like to say that I did chose this vet because my breeder recommended him for one and secondly because he has before and after photos of the dogs (not just dobies) that have had their ears cropped.  I guess every vet has a different way of cropping and posting but it is truly and art form!  

 

Thanks for all of your help!

 

Jena

I feel very badly for him to be going through the unnecessary pain of stretching. I'm sure you can imagine how badly that does hurt to have his ears stretched that way. When you think about it half the ear has been cut off, freshly stitched, and it is being stretched and pulled on. If your breeder lives close enough she should know better and be able to help you put a proper cup on his head.

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I've never heard of the 'stretching.' I wouldn't do anything to irritate the ears while the seams heel. Puppies already want to scratch at them and that can result in ugly scaring.

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I have had vets over the years use various methods. The first one I had done was Hans, my first red male in 1984. The vet there in Virgina sent him home with the tips of the ears taped together over the top of his head, with the cut edge (back) open to the air and the front (intact) edge had the tape on it. It worked out, although at first the ears slanted inward for a few weeks.

Then the next vet just let them flop. I had one vet who had a technique I have never been able to duplicate. He had a material that was like moleskin but about three times thicker and stiffer. He glued it to the inside of the puppies ears and they came home with standing ears with no sticks and no tape on any part of the ears. They did stand nicely when complete, although after the pads came out after a week or so, I had to resort to the old fashioned sticking.

When I came back down to S. Georgia, it was back to ears flopping until last year when I had my vet of 20+ years crop her ears. He has done at least 5 before her, but this was the first time he used the cup. Here is a picture of her, with a little different method in that he puts a strap of tape under the chin. You can note that the front edge of the ear is taped/glued to the cup while the back (cut/stiched edge) of the ear has nothing over the stitches.

I feel this gave her a head start as her ears stood quickly. But some ears stand quickly, and some take weeks and weeks and weeks of posting. The longer the cut, the longer they will have to be posted in order for the ears to stand.