Ear cropping in St. Louis

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Hey guys, I have a question. Does anyone know a very good vet in St. Louis? More or so the hazelwood area? I am also kind of scared of cropping my pups ears. I have two so they would try and rip each other's post off. And I really don't feel like dealing with it. Their tails are cropped already, but really I don't want very ferocious looking dogs so I thought about not getting it done. But at any rate I still need a very good vet for them. Any suggestions?

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If you are wavering about getting it done I would say don't do it. I thought you had decided on only one puppy, or was that another op. Good Luck! We love puppy piccies:)

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Well yea I did, I had planned on selling one to my friend, but he decided not to so I'm just going to keep both. But I think I'm not going to get it done 

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 Well I ended up with 2 litter mates and had them both cropped. I didn’t have issue with them trying to eat the posts so much as a terrible vet who did not care for my pups health as much as I would have cared for. The crops were beautiful but his care was lackluster and they ended up with ear infections and made me feel vile for putting my pups through such a thing. I am not saying don’t get them cropped I am saying make sure you find a very reliable vet who is experienced and will care for your pups. We ended up with a great vet because of it but still... I feel terrible thinking about that infection. I happen to have 2 videos of my 2 with cropped ears and them playing with a younger Doberman who happens to be a half brother to them ;)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdsAG8-zLVU&list=UUE45xNe-wqTJD3aMKY9-R6A

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJifwteg-Q&list=UUE45xNe-wqTJD3aMKY9-R6A

 

Quality is not that great as they were recorded on my phone but at least you can see litter mates, cropped and what it was like.

P.S. As much as I love my 2 it was a rough road, today they are 2 years old and everything is great but man o man was it a pain sometimes and I had some real scares. I will always have dobermans but I dont think I will get 2 at a time ever again (littermates)

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I really like the two. But what kind of scares? What type of problems did you have? I mean I will have A LOT of free time when I get them. So I would be with them day In and day out. So what do you think about that?

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They are fearless as a breed and seem to have an incredible threshold for pain! Everything is fine now but to avoid issues they are fed is separate rooms and are only allowed to chew on bones when in different rooms. I don’t separate them with gates or anything like that though. Once we hit 1 we had a couple of fights and I tell you one thing it is a very scary thing having 2 Dobermans fighting. It was all over a tennis ball as we were playing fetch at my in laws house in the back yard. I don’t know exactly how it started but I think one of them got the other one when lunging for the ball, they are both competitive but they had never been aggressive before. Long story short, they have iron jaws and big teeth. I got them apart but it was like wrestling a bull, I was covered in sweat and blood and hazel ended up needing stitches.

The village where I live some people don’t always keep a lead, chain or any restraint on their dogs. Long story short a black lab attacked Dexter and it caused Hazel to panic, so I have a frantic, scared 75 pound dog in one hand trying to bolt away while her 100 pound brother was throwing down with a full grown black lab. All the while every friggin dog in the neighborhood starts barking and freaking out. Dexter ended up being fine and I had to pry him off of the other dog and ended up with stitches in my hand because of it… along with a 4 inch scar on my left thigh…. I hate that black lab!

                On vacation in Tennessee while I was away my wife decided to take them for a walk. About half a mile down the only road out of where we were an owner let his blue pit-bull lose. This same dog had killed my father’s German Pincher just a few months prior. It does not take a lot of descriptive words to paint you a picture of what happened. You have a very aggressive violent bolting for my wife and dogs, you have Dexter who is protective and would die for his sister or any of his humans and you have hazel who always freaks out when a dog gets aggressive. I pulled into the driveway and my wife was covered head to toe in blood. None of it was hers, a lot was from the pit the rest was from my own. Apparently after driving the pit bull off hazel just snapped and attacked Dexter causing him to tear into her as well.

                They are strong, fearless and do not feel pain when in “fight” mode and controlling one is possible but when connected to 2 at a time when they are still training is asking for trouble just because of the unknowns. You never know when a stray/aggressive dog might come after you or one of your dogs and it creates a very dangerous situation if you cannot control your dog. if I had to do it all over again I would have always worked them alone and walked them alone during that first year.. training is everything and you have to be able to control your dogs. First year, aww puppies and easy to do... between 1 and 2 was the hell time for my litter mates, I blame a lot of that on myself for not knowing better.
 

P.S. I got my pups down in Missouri near Fredericktown.

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Wow.... Thanks for sharing. What awful incidences. Fore warning use as fore knowledge!

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 Like I said I would not reccomend getting litter mates. I would never reccomend getting 2 at a time ever unless you are a breeder (and they are your own) or someone who is just that good with the breed. I would say the vast majority of us do not fall into either.

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I can't believe it took me so long to see this post! 

Rhodie- As you know, I am also in the St. Louis area. Although we didn't crop our Dobes' ears, we do have the most amazing vet- Dr. Caroline Gilje. She is at Barrett Station Vet Clinic in Town & Country. 

She is very kind and explains everything in detail. I know she does cropping as well, although I'm sure you've already made that decision weeks and weeks ago. :) 

The link is here: www.barrettstationvet.com