Day 1 Post Op - I thought she would be more tired!

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We brought Kali in yesterday for ear cropping (she'll be 13 weeks tomorrow). She was a little whiny (she is anyway though) on the ride home but as soon as we got home she seemed pretty much back to herself. She didn't seem lethargic at all, in fact she seemed to have more energy than a normal night. All she wants to do is run, jump and play which is exactly what the vet's after care papers say not to do for 14 days. 

How do you keep a Doberman puppy from being themselves for 14 days!? I'm working from home today and I've had her tethered to the table and mostly walking her everywhere on the leash because she tries to chase and play with Zeke if I let her loose. Needless to say, she hates it.

Zeke seems to be concerned for her and a bit afraid of her. She just wants to play with him. She has one of those soft, floppy cones on which seems to be really annoying and gets in the way of everything. We got her a donut last night but it seems to be too small, like she could still reach her ears with her back feet if she tried. So hopefully I can find something better later.

Her appetite seems normal, she seems to be whining for food and because she wants to run around like a maniac and can't. This is good right? If she was in pain would she be this active?

We're bringing her back in next week to remove the stitches and they said at the vet that they do not re-wrap them afterwards. I find that to be strange but I was planning to wrap them myself anyway. It just would have been nice to see a professional job done in person to try and recreate.

Will post a pic a little later :)

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Sounds normal. Don't post the ears though till the edges are completely healed up. Glad she's normal I would play with my pup inside the house and stuff like that to tire him out or give him frozen Kong. I kept him separate from my other dog while he healed up. 

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Once they come out of the first bandages and the stitches come out you leave the ears down until the edges heal? 

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I read more about it, it makes sense lol. I have seen that instruction a few times but it didn't "click" until just now. Here she is, I love how you can really see her face now.

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Yep, normal dobie. 

Wear you out for the next 14 days.

I was lucky Tiberius did not bother his ears much when they were healing.  He also learned to hold them erect early, he hated the posts in his ears.

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Are the stitches totally wrapped ? They shouldn't be they should be left to breathe or you risk infection

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Yes, the whole ear is wrapped up. I am not sure what is inside the bandages but it seems to be pretty thick. I'm afraid to mess with it now though as I might make things worse or cause pain. She goes back on Wednesday to take the stitches out. I hope they'll be okay. She doesn't seem to be messing with them that much, she's more bothered by the floppy cone. There doesn't seem to be that many ear cropping vets near me and we just went to this one because Zeke's previous owners took him there and his are fine. 

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Here is how our girl looked after surgery. We made sure her edges were healed beforeany any posting. I think it was 2 weeks.

 

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^^ yes that's exactly how it should look edges open 

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AresMyDobie is correct, the edges should be open for the air to get to them.

This is Ti ears were after surgery, and no posting till the edges are healed up.

 

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you might should go back to the vet and see if they can open up the stiched area of the ear . but the cropping really does'nt bother the puppies at all except they get frustrated that they can't play rough house lol .here is sunna in the healing process .

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Oh dear, I'm worried now. They called from the vet's office today to check on her and said to leave the bandages alone and wait until Tuesday. She is on amoxicillin and some pain and anti-inflammatory meds. I'm wondering why they would do it that way, shouldn't they know better?

I can see why they should be open but at the same time wouldn't they also be more open to germs and dirt? When she had that floppy cone on and I'd take her outside, she would be stepping all over it, getting it wet/dirty and I had to keep drying it off. She has a donut on now which she seems to be happier with, but I have to watch her closely as I think she can reach her ears with her back foot.

Yesterday was rough and exhausting. I felt like a big jerk pretty much all day keeping her tethered to me and stopping her from jumping around. She would try to pull away, turn around and look at me with those eyes and whine as if to say "Please! I just want to play!". Today is better, I'm less tired and she seems more accepting of it all.

If only they could understand our words. Zeke doesn't understand why he cant play with her and vice versa.

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You had the surgery the 17th, Tuesday is the 23, that is only like 6 days, and they have her on amoxicillin.  So I would not get too worried.  Maybe this is the way they do it, wrap completely and on the anti-biotics.  But if they don't unwrap Tuesday and leave off I would think something is strange. 

When I had Ti's done, he had one day of a pain killer but that was all the meds they gave him.   I also did not go back till after 10 days, when they took the block off his head and the stiches out.  Then they instructed me on how to post the ears, when they did the posting for the first time. Told me to keep posting till the ears were erect. 

I let him play with the other dog, (who was 12 at the time) but would not allow any rough housing, but again Ti did not bother the ears.

 

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No being out in the open is good for them and decreases the chances of getting infected instead of staying moist in wrapped bandages. My guy had a cup on his head edges out you just keep them clean some people don't even clean the ears and have no problems. I was given antibiotics as well. If it were me personally I'd take the ears down and let them hang.

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Thanks for the input from all. I think I'll leave well enough alone for now and just keep watching her and the bandages. I'm excited to see how they look.

Day one post op. She carried these for about ten days which after where posted till they stood.

 

Today

Best of luck

Gunny

 

BTW, I restricted nothing, playing, training. I let the puppy be a puppy.

 

I've never restricted puppies from playing normally after ear cropping - I do a whole litter at a time. Their ears are on cups, and while they come home with gauze around the whole cup, that comes off the next day and ear edges are exposed to the air. They are on antibiotics to prevent infection and I put BFI powder on the edges which helps with itching. 

Not exactly a flattering picture of me - haha - but here is a litter of 6 that had just been cropped a couple of days before.... all playing... no restrictions, no neck cones. 

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good luck kali- zeke keep us posted on how they do ! fitzmar looks like so much fun playing with all those babies at once yey !!!!

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Great pics! Thank you gun_slinger & Fitzmar. Beautiful dogs.

They don't hurt themselves playing with each other? I'll feel better about letting her play more when those stitches are out. I've just been so afraid they will get pulled out/open. I'm often overly cautious though and I've never experienced anything like this before. 

I'm counting down the hours now until she goes in. I can see two stitches on one side where the bandages have rolled up some. They look good to me, so hopefully the rest are the same. 

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OMG look at those happy puppies!!!!! they are just grinning from ear to ear

I think it's a GREAT picture of you!!!! shows the love you have and vice versa for those little ones

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Got her stitches out on Monday. When we went in last Tuesday, she had somehow gotten a staple or two out of the bottom of her right ear so he put two more in and retaped them both. This time it was a lighter taping. They look good so far and pretty well healed. They also seem to be standing pretty well and she has good control over them. The vet wants to see her again not this Saturday but next (March 12th) and see if she needs posting. 

That seems like a long time to me because if they start falling in the next couple days it seems like it would be best to start posting then right? The edges seem pretty much healed.

I would have liked a slightly longer crop, but my boyfriend does not so this length was the compromise. A little longer than her brother's who came to us with a military crop.

That is IMHO a pit bull crop and shorter than a military crop - they will be very short.

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I've seen photos of pitbull crops on dobes, they're much shorter than these and look a little botched. Zeke has a short/military/pet crop and they don't look at all like the photos I've seen. There's a few photos of him in my gallery. They were done by the same vet and we asked him to make hers a little longer than he made his. I don't think he's an expert at cropping, but we didn't have many options in our area. There was only one other place but we just had more confidence with the vet we took her to since Zeke's previous owners took him there. All they told us about his ears was that they were the military crop.

Here is a more straight on photo of Kali the day she got the stitches out:

This is all pretty new to me so I'm still learning. Before Zeke, I didn't know Doberman's ears were naturally floppy. She still seems to be able to hold them up fine but I know it's still early. 

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If the edges aren't  healed yet and they flop it's not a big deal. Once the edges are healed completely stat posting. Post through teething and since her crop is so short she won't need to be posted very long