Newbie here - first Doberman tomorrow

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Hi, I am new here and hoping to learn alot.  My current house dog is Shadow a 7 year old Dane mix.  We are taking on "Tank" who is 9 weeks old tomorrow.  He is not from a breeder, but someone who can no longer care for him, says there are papers, but I have yet to see them.

Shadow is spayed and loves everyone and every furry being out there, she will do well with a puppy and is strong enough to wear one out with play.

In the past I have had a Kerry Blue and a Giant Schnauzer, I think Dobermans and the Schnauzer have a similar tmeperment from what I have been reading.

I am just trying to see if anyone has any advice for the first few months.  I am a professional dog trainer, but you can always learn something new and of course you all have breed specific knowledge.  We plan on socializing after he has a week or so to get used to us and the neighbors.  I will use alternative behavioral conditioning instead of punishment.

Any advise or tips to be a responsible Doberman owner would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

 

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Lol lots and lots of toys... Then don't call them dobersharks for a reason ;) lol we're still dealing with the teething but he's finally got the whole crate thing down now! Never punish. Try using yes more then no if they do something good day yes and lots of praise :) potty training was a bit difficult for our guy but now he knows that also thank heavens for the crate :) 

 

Be easy on the treats from what I experienced they have very sensitive tummies!!! Oh anddddd be ready for one fun and intelligent pup ! My boy has figured all sorts of things out on his own with out training :) cracks me up ! Your gonna have so much fun with your doberchild every day is a new adventure:) 

As for teething I learned from this forum frozen wash cloths lots of them, ice cubes are fun, I do frozen chicken broth ones from time to time, puppy Kong is great, nylabone is also a must and plushy squeaky toys :) 

Mine loves water but he can't play in it right now cuz his ears are posted up ! They grow fast you won't recognized your puppy in two months lol ! 

But all in all have fun :)

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Thank you very much, I have a nylabone and some kong toys all ready to go.  Love the frozen broth pups, what a great idea.

We will be keeping his ears natural, but we only have a kiddie pool for him to splash in right now.

I will pick up some wash cloths too.

We have someone home all day, plus My BF has morning duty, I come home at lunch and the "kids" (24+) are home for play all day.

I am so excited, I am so hoping this works out.

 

Thank s for all the great advice:)

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Lol yep we have a kiddie pool too he will love that trust me ! And no problem !!

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Congratulations!!! We have our first Dobie too, she's now 10 months old and owns our hearts!

Lots and lots of training, games, hide and seek etc. I find they need lots of mental stimulation as well as the physical.

Put away anything you don't want chewed up for the first 6 months at least.

Be prepared to never pee alone again. They call these dogs velcrodogs for a reason. They NEEd to be with their humans. Mine adjusted well to being home alone because we have another senior dog as well.

I have taken my girl everywhere with me to get her well socialized.

Scolding a doberman is usually counterproductive...they really do well with positive reinforcement and "ignoring" the bad behaviour. Teach him what you want him to do, his aim in life will be to please you.

Can't wait to see pics and hope it's a smooth transition for all!

Angie

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Thank you Angie - I have been a dog trainer since 96 and have never raised my hand to a dog - never will.

I agree with the benefits of positive reinforcement, and use ABC method.  Don't ask what you don't want oyur dog to do, but rather what do you want him to do instead.

 

I am happy to have found a community that is very interested in their pups and are willing to provide some great advice.

Thank you again,

Chrissy

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Yes I've learned a lot from this forum and the nice people on it :) Im sure you will too every puppy is special. I promise you will really enjoy him I know we have even though sometimes he can be a bit frustrating lol he gives the but I'm so cute face and all is forgiven hahaha ! 

Welcome to the wonderful world of a Doberman owning you ;)

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Hi Chrissy...A big HUGE welcome to this wonderful Forum.. so excited for you and for US coz we get to meet a new pup... and oh how we love pups!!

The only other thing I can add to the already awesome suggestions is to take pictures.. lots and lots of pictures as they change so quickly and grow up before you can blink your eye!!

Each stage they go throw is an experience that most of us can relate to in one way or another .. so feel free to ask any and everything.. all questions are welcome and we all learn from one another..

Once again, glad you're here and saludos from Mexico

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A GREAT BIG WELCOME FROM SUNNA BLUE [PRONOUNCED TUNA WITH AN S] !

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Well, we picked him up, poor little guy was too skinny ansd the older male Dobie in the house was not letting him eat.  Other than that he seems healthy and will have his vet appt next week.  Been giving him very small meals every 3 hours or so until he puts some weight on, but not too much as I do not want him to get sick.

 

Here is a picture of him with my Dane Mix, Shadow...

 

OK I have no idea how to attach a pic - ooops

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Here's how I do it:
 
click the landscape button in the tool bar here that appears when you type a message (next to the red flash button and after the blue eraser looking thingy called remove format)
 
when that little window appears you will see browse server, ignore the URL wording
 
click browse server
 
click upload on the upper left of that window
 
click browse in the area that pops up
 
locate the picture you want on your computer and double click it
 
click Upload at the right of where the title of your picture should be showing
 
you will then see your picture in the bottom right corner of that little window
 
click on the picture in the bottom right corner once
 
it should appear in the original little box you used in step one of the instructions here
 
if you see it (it will not show up in full since the box is small but if you see parts of the picture then click the OK button in the bottom of that little window and it should appear here
 
when it does if it's too large for the message box or you want it smaller
 
click the picture once
 
you will see little squares on each corner
 
click the square in a corner and while holding the left button down drag your mouse towards the center of the message box to shrink the pic to fit (don't use the square in the middle of the top/bottom as that will skew the picture unless you want your fat dog thinner and your thin dog fatter, hahahaha
 
Sounds like a lot of steps but once you do it a couple of times it's really fast...

 

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Well, there he is, they said 9 weeks, but he is very small and super skinny.  I have slowly been getting more food and water into him and but he is starving.  I got the bowl that slows him down and am giving 5 smaller meals a day for now, at least until I can not see his hip bones protruding:(

I think he may be younger because he is so small, less than 10 pounds and about 10 inches at shoulder.  Other than that he is a little sharknado or velociraptor and starting toplay and pounce and have fun.

Hoping by end of week he is a better weight, he has no muscle tone at all.

I did not get him friom a breeder, it was more of a rescue and I could not leave him where he was, he had an 11 year old male Dobie in the house and I don't think he let the little guy eat.

Any suggestions???

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Poor wee thing and of course he looks so teensy next to Shadow.. Don't rush it.. he'll put on weight soon enough and be a fat and happy Tank of a pup.. There had to be a lot of stress in that house.

Are you confident with your vet? Does he have any advice re: special nutrients and or vitamins? What have you decided to feed him??

Bless you for taking him in and please keep sending us photos..

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I am a former vet tech and I am waiting on records from his previous people, as soon as received I will be taking him (he is scheduled for next week)

I was concerned because I keep reading he should be about 20 lbs by now, but he is no where near that, my boyfriend thought we ended up with a min pin, but he is already full size for that and has super baby teeth.  His paws are a decent size and we love him no matter what.  He has put on some weight sonce we took him home and is acting more like a puppy - biting, chewing, sleeping, peeing - all the funs stuff and he does love to cuddle too.

Thanks to all:)

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WELCOME CRASH, to the Gd forum:)

We hope you lose the scrawny look soon and grow up to be a happy and healthy and good boy. It looks like you will, in your new forever home. So nice for him to have a big doggie Aunty, too. AND a human parent that knows vet skills, what a plussss!!!!

Take lots of photos to share

 

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Here he is being a good boy:)

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Don't worry about his size to much my boy is " supposed to be 50 pounds" he is 43 right now. He will gain weight at his own pace and grow as well at his own pace. Feed him good food at proper portions and don't try to rush it he will be just fine... Me being a worry wart i understand your concerns:) but he will put the weight on:) 

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Thank you - he is sooo hungry (no worms).

I have been feeding a higher brand of the pro plan with lamb as main ingredient, right now about 5 times a day but very small amount so he doesn't over do it and get sick - although he will go right from his bowl to my older dog so I am not sure how much he is really getting.

He is a really good boy - mostly goes outside and is very good with the Dane mix too.  We will keep everyone posted:)

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Lol mine was the same way at that age he ate three times a day every day and every time that food bowl went down he was so excited lol he's 5 months and doesn't eat like that anymore now he eats twice sometimes three times a day but in between meals he gets snacks :) lol Kate is right take lots of pics because he's going to look very different soon at 3 months I was like where's the lil guy go ? Now I five months he looks like a small adult. He's now 43 pounds and 23 inches tall and I couldn't be happier :) we are trying to get some weight on him but we don't stress over it like we used too ! 

So happy he's found a great home I'm sure you will enjoy him so much !!

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Thak you all for ther support and suggestions, how nice to find a community like this:)

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We measured Crash last night and he has gotten both longer and taller.  Still can't get a weight on him, but he was filled out very nicely on Sunday and yesterday he looked skinny again.  Guessing its a tiny growth spurt.

He is eating 4 tinmes a day, I put some yogurt in each meal and both dog get brewers yeast once a day.  He sleeps in a baby's pack n play next to the bed so I can run him out if he has to go at night.  We also use it for time out if he starts teething on us - it has been working out nicely and he is sooo close to only going outside - yay!

Just wanted to throw an update out for everyone.

Thanks for being so welcoming!!!

 

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thanks for the update keep them coming .

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OOps sorry.. did not see the name change on your profile.. so 'Tank' is now "Crash".. love it.. that's sorta what they do.. thanks for your update and it sounds as if he's really getting the gist of it all..

What does Shadow seem to think of her little minion??

For a couple of months when we first got Bella.. we would pick her up and step on our household scale.. then put her down and step back on..Got good at Math and how nice it was to see that I didn't REALLY have to go on that lettuce diet..

Can't do that anymore as she tips the scales at 70 pounds.

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Wish I had a scale -have no idea what he weighs yet.

Shadow is very gentle with him - but he can get relentless trying to get her to play.  So after about 10 minutes of him play bowing and barking at her and jumping on her - she will try and play.  Then he realizes how big she is and gets scared and runs away.  Then she looks so sad until he comes back in 5 minutes.

I think it will be better when he is a little bigger and she feels like she won't hurt him.  By the end of this month I think we will see a signifcant growth spurt.

Right now I can not keep them out of each other's food.  If I feed them seperatly - one of them or both cry.  If I feed them in same room while I watch - Crash will eat all his food and then Shadow will lick his bowl, so he will go and eat more of her food.

So far no jealousy - we take turns - I will come home and say hi to Shadow and take her out for some playtime, then we let Crash out.  Then the other way around - and all the neighbors love Shadow, so they are comingto fence to pet her and meet Crash.

Fingers crossed - so far so good:)

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I don't know if any dairy is the best thing but for these dogs you want to make sure their growth is steady and not growing to fast :) I think you are doing a great job :) I'd put him on really good food we feed natural balance grain free puppy formula :) we all feed him pumpkin everyday he loves it. We give him peanut butter almost every day as a snack as well as carrot sticks!

I bet he loves your Great Dane !!!! Lol and more pictures please :)

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I will put more pictures on when I can gte them uploaded- he does love baby carrots which I give to both dogs.  Right now I am gonna hold off pn messy snacks cause big dog and little dog will be all over each other.

My Giant Schnauzer breeder had told me to give her (my GS) some yogurt in her food for first month.  Since he was so skinny and his coat was a mess I figured I would give it a try - just a teaspoon per meal and I will cut back on that by end of month.  But is there is any reason you all think that I should stop immediately I will - I do not want to harm my new son ;)

I used to do the pumpkin, not sure why I didn't remember that - great suggestion - thank you!

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No problem :) yep we give our 5 month old 3 tablespoons of pumpkin every dinner :) I dunno I'm not an expert I just remember someone saying on here that dairy is a no no for Dobermans lol but he sure is a little cutie pie :) we like to freeze peanut butter and turkey kings for him when it's warm ! Steamed ground beef will put weight on him too but I would give that gradually our kid had a issue with beef till we introduced it gradually :) ... He has issues keeping weight on lol but now he looks perfect !

 

 

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Oh such a handsome one!  We started making the chicken broth ice cubs in funny shapes for outside play - and I think we will have to move on the ice pops - mostly water, but the both adds flavor - nice on a hot day:)

 

Your boy is stunning, truly!

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Lol Ares loves chicken broth Popsicles !!! And thank you when we got him he was so small now at 5 months he really has become such a sweet and handsome boy lol and he knows it ! 

Here he is when we first got him. He was smaller then my min pin/ chi mix lol

And here he is now with his unposted and his little buddy :) 

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Just got home and noticed his front right paw is turned out I felt his legs and noting appears to be off but is this normal? He is not limping but I'm pretty sure it was not like that yesterday. I will try and post a pic but I am on the phone

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And your dog's are gorgeous!

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I would take a pic cuz I don't know what that would really look like ? Lol and thank you 

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I can't do it on the phone will try soon

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Man of the house said he stepped on him earlier. Arrgh! He us not limping and I can't feel anything he is still bouncy and playful not at all upset if I squeeze his leg gently. I'm just so worried...

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Man of the house said he stepped on him earlier. Arrgh! He us not limping and I can't feel anything he is still bouncy and playful not at all upset if I squeeze his leg gently. I'm just so worried...

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aresmydobe those ears turned out beautiful!!!!  he is a hansome boy.

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Thank you lol that was the day we took him for a swim and of course after fun in the pool he got a bath so that's when he was airing his ears out :) his tips aren't all the way there yet but very very close :) 

I wouldn't worry too much and if worse comes to worse take the little guy to vet :) if it isn't better by tomorrow of the day after I would certainly get it checked out :) 

 

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Just learned another fun teething trick :) well we love to make Popsicles for our doggies and we needed something that would hold interest so here's what we did low sodium chicken broth water peanut butter turkey shedded baby carrots and a carrot stick as the Popsicle handle :) our boy went nutssssss over it :) maybe this can help with the teething of course our other dog get them two ! He loved it as well !!!

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thats a good idea . sounds yummy  teething or not any dog would love those !!

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OK here is a not so great pic of his foot - any ideas - he is not crying, lets me squeeze it without whimpering- walking fine - I am just worried

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Is he walking with it like that ? He might need a splint.... When he got stepped on did he cry or anything ? I dunno if it were me I would get an X-ray :/ last thing you want is joint issues with a dobe. Maybe it's a little swollen ? Ice and heat maybe ? I'm not sure :/ I'd just bite the bullet and get an X-ray to be certain...

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Yes that was my first thought - get the x ray - if it looks the same when I get out of work he is going to the ER.  

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Ok that's good that's reay all you can do :( I'm really sorry hopefully he's just fine and we are all worrying for nothing :) I can say one thing with my experience dobermans absolutely hate pain... I stepped on Ares on accident one time and he cried like it was the worst thing in world and then went back to normal within minutes ... Drama king lol I checked his foot and all was fine but he sure acted like it was the worst thing in the world I felt terrible :( but yes I think he should get an X-ray :) 

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Yes, he will yip and cry if Shadow knocks him over, or when he missed a step - but he hasn't favored it and I am waiting for the kids at home to send me a pic today - if it is better, then I will be happy to report it, if not I will let you all know what doc says

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Sounds good :) hope he's alright !

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OK - finally got him to the vet.

He is 12.5 lbs, about 12 inches tall at the shoulder and is in general good health.

His paws are fine, no damage, just growing pains they said - one day its one paw then next a different one.

He also had roundworms - yuck, but he got a dewormer while there.

Got his bordatella and his Distemper /Parvo vaccination.

Back in 3 weeks for second set of shots, and wormeing as well.

Guess I was just a worried mommy, but his color seemed off to me, the vet and the tech both thought it a little wonky as well, but it is just his color a little purple.

But he is happy and healthy and a little shark!

 

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Wonderful update!!!... and I have to go back and re-read as I was so anxious to find out how Crash's paw/foot/ankle was that I sorta skimmed.. I did however take the time to look at all the photos.. and OMG.. I'm dying here.. a full blown case of puppy fever has mercilessly attacked!! Even though Ares LOOKS oh so grown up.. we know he's still a youngun..GORGEOUS!!

I can tell that  Crash has put on a bit of weight and kudos to you Chrissy and AresMyDobe for being such incredible Dobermoms!!

I'm learning a lot.. and bookmarking this for the next teething bout we get from the next ( someday)pup.. thanks!!

Katie