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Looking at their site and their breeding stock, would you say that they are reputable breeders? As far as I've looked, they seem pretty rooted in their breeding and training program.

http://www.familydobes.com/

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Google them.  I think you'll think twice.

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Without reading through the website fully...the quantity of dogs that they have and the number of puppies for sale puts me off.  They seem to operate on a commercial scale similar to Kimbertal. 

On the top of the home page they have a link for "puppies for sale, click here!"  That to me is an immediate red flag - it just shows you where their motives are. 

Their puppy guarantee says..." The Dog is in good health and free of communicable diseases at the time of this sale. Buyer has two days from the delivery date to have the Dog examined by a licensed veterinarian (Buyer will pay all veterinarian fees). Health Policy as follows: Family Dobes guarantees the pup to be free of Hip Dysplasia (when raised on approved feed, requires receipts for verification), hypothyroidism, von Willebrands disease (must be verified with Vetgen DNA test, and be “affected” and have active bleeding issues), wobblers syndrome, and progressive retinal atrophy to the age of 24 months. We also guarantee the dog to be free of genetic cardio problems when diagnosed by certified cardiologists. We recommend yearly holter monitor exams, EKG, Echo and blood tests. Cardio problems will be covered until four years of age if cardio testing has been conducted yearly from age one onward."I I  

I am not an expert in health but my current understanding is that the tests for hips/elbows and thyriod aren't even done until age 2.  Which would render this guarantee irrelevant for those things.  Also I'm not understanding why cardio is only covered if testing has been done every year?  As in if you didn't test for it until age 3, say, and heart problems were found, what does it matter if the tests were done previously or not?  The problem is still there.   And what constitutes as approved feed, and how does that impact hip displasia?  And they expect you to hang on to your food receipts for the dogs entire life?  Since the guarantee is not specific as to what food is approved, that's basically a loophole for them if you dog did have hip problems. 

 

Anyways that's what I came up with after being on their website for only 5 minutes...not great.  Just curious as to what your interest is, Erika?  Are you planning to get a second puppy, or just researching? 

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Just researching right now, sweetpea :3 I don't intend to buy one anytime soon.

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They have a bunch of videos on youtube if you search for them. It might give you a better idea. Good luck in your search!

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This is one of my many enlightening threads about him out there.

http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/58293-another-family-dobes-thread.html

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Damn. Lots of red marks on him. He's off my "potential yet not really potential" future show-dobe list. Thanks for the forum link, glengate.

IMHO, that health guarantee is totally worthless.  Zelda - if you are thinking of showing a dog in conformation, then you want to stick with succesfull show breeders .... not commercial breeders of any kind.

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Yes, ma'am/sir, Fitzmar :) Rhapsody Doberman is my first choice for a show dog. I'm going to fill out that mentor/mentee form that the AKC provided and send it in so I can get a start in the show-dog business as soon as possible.

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I was just on youtube and asked about their dobes...very turned off by the responses I got from them. I would never purchase from them. Ever. Feel free to look at our conversations on youtube under my user name: Sumthinsfishie Aquatics. 

What erks me is that on almost every response it says 'good luck in your search'. YES. I will search elsewhere and FIND good luck in my search.. finding another doberman as I will not pay top dollar for a BYB or commerical kennel dog. I will find a Euro dog with health checks & caring breeders who don't do it on a MASS scale or have bad reports from the BBB, or purchase from registered offenders, or are listed on ripoffreport. 

Most of the so-called breeders of Euros can't or won't answer my simple questions. DOB, DOD, COD, health testing, issues, etc. These are IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO ME and I'm highly offended when I get either no answers or BS answers. If I am shelling out $1500-$5,000 for one of YOUR dogs I want answers and FACTS/PROOF that backs up what you say your dogs are/are not. 

I'll find a healthy dog with acceptable health grades, good genes and bred for LONGEVITY that I'm looking for......as a pet, not for show.

I want a dog that can live as long as God wants it to with love, excellent food, care and knowledge of what the Doberman breed needs and was bred for.

I do my research. I know what I want. I just haven't found it yet and will keep looking until I do.