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Does any one here, who keeps records of growth, know when they stop growing? Years ago, I had a 65 pound female, 68 pound female, & an 85 pound male. My current male is 92 pounds, and 31 inches @ the shoulder, at 14 months. It has been 10 years since the first 3, and I had foolishly thought I'd never go through the heart break of loosing another one of my pets to old age. Now I have acquired a new red male dobe and I have to say my jaw dropped when I first met him, and saw how big this boy was. He is tall and just a great weight for his frame, but can't remember when my others stopped growing in height and weight.

Is the breed getting bigger? The first 3 were American Dobermans, but this one I am not sure? He seems to be thicker in the legs than our last male with a much larger head, taller and bigger through the chest as well. I was wondering if he is Euro?

I can't recall the web site that I used a long time ago to look up his registered name and if it would show his ancestors lineage.

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Interesting thread.. I think you're right.. it seems to me the breed is leaning toward bigger. If you look back at the early years of Doberman, they were almost on the small side. Now it seems the 'standard' is growing.

When did the show crop get so popular? Most people on this Forum seem to enjoy the larger dogs where as the AKC 'standard' is still a lot smaller.

Are we  breeding them to be bigger? Dunno.. I look forward to hearing from some of our breeders and see what their thoughts are on this apparent growth.

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I have both an A.K.C. And a C.K.C. Book of breed standards and neither lists the Doberman's weight.  When I asked a registered breeder at a dog show, they said it's because there are 2 true types, American & European that vary too much in weight to put them into an exact weight category.

even so, my new baby is taller than the breed standard, although the books are not of a recent copywriter date either.   He is A.K.C. Registered.  They gave me his papers when I bought him.  I took them because they offered, however they are still in the original owners name.  He is neutered, and we never had intentions of showing.  He's just becoming a pet in our house.  Nothing else is expected of him other than to be a dog.  

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I think that the 'trend' for SOME breeders has been for breeding big, tall, dobermans to get bigger taller dobermans over the last several years.  I agree, the standard is considerably smaller than a lot of today's dobermans are in height, and the weight is just proportionate, so they are weighing more than they used to a few generations ago.

Ziva is an inch taller than what the standard calls for a female, and she weighs right around 90 lbs. Kind of big for a female, but that's just her.

I've always believed that a doberman has pretty much reached it's maximum height by the time it's a year old, and the 2nd year is all about 'filling out' and bulking up.  At least that's how mine seem to have been.

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I am on the lookout for a good winter coat for him to wear this winter, but if he grows too much more, maybe a saddle too!  ;)

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My Isis must lean more toward the smaller, she is still a pup but she seems to be so much smaller than other dobermans that I see around the block that are about her age.

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Mine just turned 6 months old and my male is 60 pounds and the girl is 53 pounds. They seem to be growing every day! If you look back at the pictures of when I got my pups, you could tell that Dexter was the runt and almost 33% smaller than Hazel..... now he is bigger and heavier and if this rate continues will dwarf hazel in 6 months.

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Our Sasha could have passed as German Pinscher! She was only 55lbs all grown up and NOT SKINNY! I always called her 'petit'. 

Dexter on the other hand is 7 months old and almost at 70lbs. He is not fat^^ just a very tall boy! 

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Harley is about a year and two months and he is only 65 lbs and 27" at the shoulder.  Just a little guy!  He doesn't look that thin to me and he eats all his food with a vengeance.  All you have to do is ask him, "Are you hungry?"  and he cock his head to one side and looks to you to confirm what you are saying is true, and runs to his food bowl. 

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rocky was gaining about 10 lbs per month right on the average until 7 months.   He slowed then and was 80-82 lbs at 1 year. They say they should fill out a few pounds in the 2nd year but Rocky has not, he's now 2 yrs 5 months and still weighs 80-82 lbs. 

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Thanks.  I guess my boy is about done then.  The vet said he thought he'd gain very little additional weight in his 2nd year, and a slight possibility of a half inch to inch height.  

The breed standard is the standard no matter what size some people are breeding them. Even with good breeders, some dogs will be larger than standard.  However, here in the USA, the prevailing trend is that bigger is better and so plenty of shady breeders will breed larger. 

Larger is not better and it is not where the breed is heading among good breeders.  My male is about 27" at the whithers and stays 85-88 lean pounds. My girls are normally in the 25-26" range and 70 pounds.... although my newest girl from my last litter is large and will most likely be over sized.  If I ever breed her, I would look for a very standard sized dog that comes from standard sized dogs - I would not be looking to breed oversized dogs.

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Fletcher is was just over 60 pounds last week when I weighed him.  He was born on Chrismas day 2011, and reached 5 months old about a week and a half ago.  Both his mom and dad where big dobers.  His dad was 110 pounds and mother I believe was 90.  His was fully AKC registered when I got him.  We love our big pup so much.  A lot of people (that do not know Dobermans) that first meet him think he is a full grown dog and don't realize he is still a puppy.      

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We have a 7 month dobie who weighs 90 pounds and is 30 at the shoulders. He is going to be a big. Most people think he is full grown but he is just a great pup.

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My litte guys mother was 85 pounds and his father was 95 pounds both amazing dogs,so im looking forwird to seeing how big my boy gets. :)