Worried about the undescended testicle

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Went to doc Saturday found out Meechee has one undescended testicle.

Has anyone else gone through this? A male dog I had in the past did not descend till he was about 8/9 months.

Is there anyone that can relate? How long should I wait? I know if it doesn't come down I for sure need to have him neutered to help prevent cancer.

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Hi Grace,

 I have never had this issue with a dog, but I have with a few horses. That being said the testies serve the same function in all mammals during growth. They are very important for the animals physical development. Muscle mass in paticular, usually you shouldn't need to worry about one becoming cancerous until after body development is complete. If it were me, I would consult a minimum of 2 vets about this issue. If he is neutered to early it can slow his physical development tremendously. With a young neutered male it is also very important to excersise more so than with an intact male. The testosterone production is eliminated with neutering. That hormone is extremely inmportant for maintaining a lean muscular look of the the male. People will most likely disagree. I would most certainly consult the vet about your cancer concern IMO he is far to young to consider neutering. Good luck

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I would at least wait until "normal" neutering age - 7 months in the least, preferably (in my opinion) after a year old.  Certainly not at his age now (12 weeks?).  I think the cancer danger takes time (think years) to develop.

I had a whippet with an undescended testicle once, but an attack by a pack of dogs forced the issue and it was removed when he underwent emergency surgery.  

Its more like a spay than a normal neuter.

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I agree with WNC - my only personal experience with this was last year with my male cat, we rescued 3 kittens that were barely 2 weeks old and got the momma and pappa too the pappa has died from FIV and the momma is healthy but the kittens were not so lucky there was a runt, one with a heart murmur and one that has neurological and back leg issues - the neuro kitty is the one that had the undescended test. we waited and the vet could feel it but it would not drop by neuter time, so the neuter took twice as long and it was very invasive and was very much like a spay and it costs more too....but it prevents the testicle from sitting inside the body and basically "rotting" for lack of a better explanation and creating cells that can turn cancerous if left unchecked. It does take a while for that to happen so you should have time to wait and see for a little bit....your vet would be the best one to advise on how long you can really wait as he/she knows how far up it is and how encased it is....etc......I hope my kitty experience helped a bit.....

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Thank you all for the posts it helps to alleviate my fears.

Magnum's dad I am sure going to ask all the questions you brought up in your post. I do not want him to lose his muscular physicality.

I will wait for the neuter for a couple years at least till he is done maturing.

 

I feel so sad for my puppy.

I had no intentions of mating him but still feel badly.

Other than that he is coming along nicely and being a little rambunctious pup as he should.

 

 

Thank you all again for your posts. They help a lot.

 

 

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Your puppy will not experience any pain or inconvenience with the undescended testicle.  It will not grow at the same rate as the one in the scrotum and will not function properly if left alone.  It does not change the timeline for your elected castration, it just changes how much you will spend on the procedure.  The surgery is more invasive if it is indeed still inside the abdomen, but it is a fairly routine procedure. 

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Glad we were of some help. Let us know what you find out.

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Sorry about the late post.

I went to another Vet and she could feel the testicle low in his abdomen. That made me feel a bit better. (Doesn't mean it will drop in sack) I was just grateful to know it was not way high in the abdomen, which could me extensive surgery when I have him neutered. She seemed relieved too.

She also told me not to worry and he will grow fine. I was asked if I had a problem neutering him. I certainly do not, I never planned on mating him.

I was also told he was a beautiful Doberman. Of course he is he's my baby lol. Aren't most Dobers beautiful?

So she agreed with me to wait till at least 9 months and lets see what happens.

He is growing by leaps and bounds and just as peppy as ever. I think we are going through the "terrible twos" he has been quite stubborn about training. But I always get the last word. I have to make sure I remain Alpha.

I have a pantry door that I marked my children's height as they grew. Meechee is now part of the chart.

He was scheduled for ear crop tomorrow. I canceled that I decided to keep his ears natural.

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Great news Grace! 

Waiting is a good choice I think. And boy do they ever grow fast, our magnum was all legs ( still is really but way longer than at 9 weeks. Amazing how fast they grow. He had his ears cropped last tuesday , stitches come out tomorrow. I am hoping his mom will send me a new pic of him after they get home. 

 Again that is some great news easier on the pocket book!

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Good news.

The other testicle has descended.

I prayed and hoped and prayed some more. I did research on the NET found a site that said to gently massage the abdomen I did that a few times till I could no longer see the floating testicle. I checked him frequently. Finally one day I thought I felt 2 lol. Waited again and now you can definitely feel them, they have also started to show. I am hoping and praying it stays put.

I guess you just really need to be patient also.

I will talk to the Vet about all this again and get more advice. I am grateful I don't have to worry about it floating anymore.

 

 

 

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yayayayaay that sounds like good news...sorry I haven't seen this to say so but the forum threads are not always showing the sections that have new posts kinda weird but I see it now :))

I had a cat with this problem it was a costly surgery and there would have been no way he would have let me touch his belly, the advantages of having a dog versus a cat for this one

Hope the vet agrees everything is good to go surgery day!!! yayayaya

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It sure is great. I am so relieved.

Now when the time comes I won't be as worried.
 

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I'm happy this worked out, for those who will find this post in the future i would like to add my experience.

Jeter has undessended, we waited but it eventually was causing pain. In surgery he lost lots of blood and the scar was significant.

This was post opp photo.

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So sorry you had to go through that. Your poor buddy.

It is such an involved surgery. I feel so sad for him.

Glad it is all over now and he is doing better I am hoping.

 

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Thank you Andrew for your input and direct knowledge on this subject. I remember when Jeter was going thru this and now obviously from your recent video post he is FINE!

 

Grace we are happy to have you on board and glad to hear the good news that the testes is close to normal by now.

Congrats on your choice of ears, so much less work and medical bills,,,,floppy ears rule! And will likely finally become more and more common worldwide...

 

Kind regards

 PB an' me