Vet Visit- double fangs?

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Well Cisco went for his suture removal and check-up and we took raven to have her weighed and get her new  heartworm meds- Firstly, Cisco decides to go to the bathroom in the room- Thank God he did! He had awful diarhea and there was blood in his stool. They are checking it and will get back to me tomorrow- He is fine physically- they think he probably just got a hold of something that irritated him. I hope! His temp, gums, etc were all fine.

Raven checked out well though she has a double fang- which they should have  removed during her spay but since I went to the clinic they didnt do it- And I honestly never noticed. How did I miss that- we brush her teeth at least once a week! So now looks like she is going to have to have oral surgery. Anybody ever deal with that?

Please keep my baby boy in your thoughts!

On a good note. He is weighing in at 73.8 and she is 54.4!

Here is a pix - sorry about quality snapped it with camera phone... It looks the same on both sides.

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Geez, Mandy, is it never gonna end with your kids?  They should have noticed it on initial exam on Raven, and at least told you about it.  Having said that, when the time came that I could actually examine Mystic, I noticed that she still had one of her decidious teeth.  Somewhere not long after, she managed to lose it on her own.  She loves to play tug with Fancy, so that may have done it.  But, if Raven's doesn't come out soon, it could crowd her other teeth. It's too bad they didn't see it, it's a matter of yank it out while she's already anesthetized.  Mystic was already ending a heat cycle when I got her, so it gave me a better estimate about how old she is.  Maybe you'll get lucky and it'll come out by itself.  If she needs it out, it's a quick down and quick up to have it done.  Now about that Cisco.....       good thoughts and prayers for the kid.

Good luck and keep us posted.  Um, should you have been driving with your eye the way it is??

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I am suprised that nobody- not even me noticed it til now- one reason I am changing to this vet! Cisco is seeming ok... playful, eating, drinking normally- hope it is nothing!

and hubby drove lol!!!!

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Y'all are in my prayers!! I hope things level out soon, I know how that feels when your baby is contantly battling something!! xoxo & love from us!!!

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Thanks Ang!

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Wow Mandy... This has certainly been a stressful time for you and your family. I think I'd be ready to hide under my kitchen sink with that ever present bottle of cooking sherry.

Glad The Kid is okay today. I have never heard of a double fang. Hope someone on this forum will have some suggestions for you. ( Raven's teeth sure are purty though.. shiny, white.. and a whole bunchalotta of em!) No advice, just 100% support for whatever you need to do.

AndBTW:  HOW could Cisco 'get a hold of something'? I thought he ate everything already LOL

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Thanks Katie! The vet was calling her Sharky!

Well Cisco has giardia- so they are going to treat both of them- I read up on it and am assuming since they have been trying to drink out of the run-off puddles from all the rain in the side yard that is where they got it- So back to vet to get them  medicine. And they will be leashed for potty breaks and in a different area until we can get into the side yard landscaping/ regrassing which we were planning on doing in the next few weeks...

Ugh! Always something- At least we caught it early!!!!

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Mandy, just reading the news. ... Heavens to Betsy! More for SuperDobeMom to deal with, but on the positive side nothing life threatening and you have the diagnosis and the cure!  

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Thanks Barb- I am at my wits end- Sitting in my office bawling- feelin not so super of a dobermom...

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Just finished Googling Giardia.......At least you caught it early.These things happen.......Usually not all at once though.Everything will be fine and you'll look back and laugh(maybe just giggle)at what you went through for them.

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Thanks Patriot! It has been sooooo rainy here and the run off has our side yard a sopping mess, which makes it hard to pooper scoop and get it all up. That with Raven being a fanatical digger has left huge muddy (obviously infested) holes in the ground- We covered them up with rocks and bricks and make sure they don't drink out of them (or try to at least) They are rarely left out there for more than a few minutes unattended. But it only takes a couple of slurps of that "yummy" muddy water. With talking to the vet he said he feels they have not had it long and we definately caught it early enough. 10 days of meds and they said to bring a stool sample back in after 2 weeks. And we will go from there.

I am just heartsick still that I didn't watch closely enough, that I did something wrong.

We have decided instead of  just regrassing that yard we are going to level it, put up a privacy fence instead of chainlink, and put stones and a drainage pipe system for the run-off (my dad owns a piping supply house so we can do it for cheap)outside of the fence. We are also going to put a couple cement pads in (the yard is tiered) and hopefully with all of that- there will be no more problems with the run-off. And I am getting a super-dooper pooper scooper and will be doing it as soon as they go rain or shine. I usually do it 2x a day and obviously that isn't quite enough!

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Giardia is nothing to mess with. When I was in Virginia, they warned us that all of the natural springs should be considered contaminated and to treat the water.

The lady with whom I used to board my babies with had several outside chain link enclosed areas with gravel bottoms. This was the fairly large rocks because the very small ones would get between the pads. After the dog was finished, she would pick up, wash down with a garden hose and then sprayed it down with clorox to kill any germs and then let it dry before the next dog was let into that area. You could walk back in the kennel area and stand in the middle of the 12 runs (6 on each side) and never smell anything even though it was well populated. (Six of the runs were for her show dogs and 6 for boarding. Needless to say you needed a reservation).

You might want to consider a pooping area like that. Of course, if you get it cleared up and fence an area where the water does not run in, you won't have to worry about it. They don't get it from each other except for right now. It the other animals, dogs, cats and wild that are in the area.

When I was in the city, it seemed like I was always battling Coccidiae and worms. After I moved out here and restricted their roaming area, (knock on wood) I have not had a problem for years.

As for the double fang, look closely and see if you think it is a genetic anomoly or if it is a baby fang that did not come out. From the photo it does not look like a baby fang, they are so much smaller.

Princess only had three upper front teeth instead of the normal 4. However, there is no real gap, they are evenly spaced. That is a genetic anomaoly (and a disqualifying fault if I had wanted to show her - furthest thing from my mind). Extra teeth do happen on ocassion.

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richard definately no joke. they have seemed fine the last two days- tonight it has been awful... they look at you and its I  need to go out every 15 mins and it is the stinkiest smelliest most awful poos i have ever been around... we are going to rework the yard and put stone down for them.. took captain swallower w. us today to landscaper yard to see what he was the least interested in.... lol! as for 2x fangs even the mama breeder is baffled.... never has had a pup w/ 2x fang.. they are both solid teeth which is just crazy.... we have surgery sheduled for 11 mos mark and if they come out before that we would be pleased...

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Poor Raven...I know how she feels.  I was born with "double eye teeth" lol... thats what my dentist told me after he confused me with the letters and numbers thing... it made sense once he pointed them out.

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Well on a good note one double fang gone- one to go! Dr Lusk seems to think the next one should be coming out soon! What a relief I am really over surgery and vet visits.

On o a makes me mad note- they put a chip in Raven when she was spayed - they put it in down in her leg area- well it will not scan now ( i needed it scanned to get a lifetime license for her) So looks like i have to spend another 45 bucks to get Avidchip put in her neck! Ugh!

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Why in the world would they microchip her in the leg???  Down here, they're always chipped in the scruff of the neck area.  I'm not sure anyone here would even TRY to scan the legs...

Ask for a refund!!!!  They wasted your time, $$ & the aggravation factor is high!!!!

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DRAT!  as soon as I hit "save" I remembered that you took her to a clinic...  OK - Delete the last line, but the aggravation factor is still really high!

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I know i thought it was weird- it was only 25 there but still and it wasnt even an avid chip- It was AKC... I will spend the 45$ and have it done right!