Vet Pushing Eukanuba Hard

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Both vets and the vet staff at the PetSmart vet clinic have been pushing Eukanuba really hard and saying what we've been feeding him (Blue Buffalo Freedom/Wilderness) may lead to health issues. 
They even said today that switching him to the 'better', 'proven' Eukanuba food could possibly 'fix' his legs ( pic here ).

And yet, everything I can find says that Eukanuba is a considerably inferior brand to Blue Buffalo.  Dogfoodadvisor.com, for example, gives Eukanuba a mere 3, but Freedom a 4 and Wilderness a solid 5... even the Basics (not grain-free, and not fed to Koko) got a 3.5.

I mean, the anecdote she told me about switching to Eukanuba helping a dog whose legs had fallen almost entirely (it sounded like what I heard referred to as 'kennel hock', where they are kept locked in a crate ALL the time for an extended period)...  was a switch from Pedigree.  Well, sure, going from a 1-star food to a 3-star food, I'm sure there was a positive change!

Am I just being self-satisfied and a knowitall?  Are they just underinformed?  Are they being paid to push Eukanuba? 

I'm so tempted to print out the comparative analyses and take it in next time.  -.-

I agree Eukanuba is an inferior dog food compared to blue buffalo, taste of the wild and such. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this. Just comparing the ingredients will prove. I would love to hear from some vet techs or others why the vets push the inferior dog foods such as this and science diet. My experience with all vets is they specialize in one or two areas and it is impossible to keep up with all the latest technology. People rely way to much on their vets thinking their words are the end all with knowledge. They truly believe that because they have been to vet school means they know everything. Most vets will still recommend foods high in corn as the major ingredient as a good food, when most of us know that this is not the case any longer. 

 

I would recommend do the research and follow your heart not the vets. JMHO

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I love my vet for a lot of things.  Just not as much for nutritional information.  

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Hmmmm; that's weird.  They say it is harder to become a vet than an MD, not that an MD is easy.  I would think they would know a lot about food/nutrition because it is so fundamental to health.

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I think, unfortunately ,that a lot of vets make a bundle on the supplements and food they sell.  My vet has Royal Canin and although he doesn't 'push' it per se.. He did recommend the copper free hepatic when we had Sofia's liver scare. I seemed to really help a lot with the enzymes.. but then it's hard to say what really worked.. Was it really liver? Did she have an infection that was causing her enzymes to skyrocket? Why in a month were they in the 'normal range?" Was it the antibiotic he gave her?

I don't know how much the kibble costs the vets to buy, but they surely do mark it up..

Gunny has the best advice.. The best quality you can afford and one that agrees with your dog.

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Alot of vets sell Science Diet, and also Euakanuba...  I'm gussing yours does as well??  lol  These companies must give the vets a nice commission on sales, I can't remember the last vet i've been too that didn't have science diet for sale.

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It's the vet's office inside the PetSmart.  They don't have food or anything else separate from the store.  That's why it's so confusing to me.  I would understand more if they were trying to get me to buy food from them instead of a petstore, but they are in the pet store.  He even told me not to even finish the bag I had, just bring back the unused portion and tell them the vet told me to and they would refund it even half gone.

Science diet does have it's use for special diets but not for everyday use. 

Does Petsmart have a actual vet inside or do they just do shots? That goes to show you that they really do not know what they are talking about if they are in a store that offers all the good foods. Even employees working in the food section know the difference between a high quality food and the lower quality bags. They are taught basic information so they can show the different foods to people with questions. 

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It's an actual full vet's office, attached to the PetSmart the way the PetHotel/Training Center is on the other side, and the grooming parlor on the front. 

What's funny is, as you point out, the Blue Buffalo was originally recommended to us by the food-area employees as the best food that won't just break the bank... at the same PetSmart.  lol

Most people feed crap for dog food - so in that case what they are pushing is a step up.  What you do want to watch with your kibble is the amount of protien - keep it 26% or less if you are having growth issues. A well balanced large breed puppy kibble might be a good choice right now till he is a little older. I don't know what the breakdown is of the food you are feeding - if it is higher in protein that might be why the vet is recommending a change.

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The Wilderness is regular Puppy, too high in protein atm, because they don't have a large breed puppy; we got that only because they were out of the Freedom Large Breed Puppy when we needed food.  This weekend we'll get another bag of Freedom and keep the Wilderness as 'emergency fall back' food (will vacuum seal it).  Although I just looked, the Freedom is 28%..  do I need to look for something even lower?

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A lot of vets get free products from these large companies.  Very similar to doctors that get lots of products from the pharmaceutical companies.

I remember when we took Ellie for her intial puppy exam, they gave us a Eukanuba Puppy Package, where you kept track of all her shots, weight, etc.  It had general information on how to take care of a puppy, but on every page it had Eukanuba's logo, a free sample of food, and coupons for Eukanuba.  I would bet that Eukanuba gave them those packages for free and other incentives.

28% is high for a fast growing larger breed like a Doberman - if they are doing fine on it then I would not worry, but your puppy IS having issues so I would look for something lower.  If need be, take him off of puppy food altogether. 

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The only thing that would get him at or below 26% in the Blue Buffalo is the Freedom (grain free) Adult...  So we got him a bag of that to see how he does.  I just worry about other nutritional lacks he may develop going on adult so early, there's more to it than just the protein levels isn't there?

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Tannaidhe, to be honest that is a hard question to answer.  My vet didn't think so.  She told me to feed Harley the same food that I was feeding Ellie to make it easier on myself.  Others may disagree.  Does your food have an All-life stages diet?

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I'm not sure, I wasn't there because I was sick this weekend; Jess said the only two options with protein under 26% were the grain free adult, and the with-grain large breed healthy weight adult.

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Avoderm chicken and brown rice formula is 23% protein.