Serious skin issues

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Hi Everyone,

I need some advice. My blue doberman Axel has had major skin issues. He is two years old now , but from the day I brought him home when he was 8 weeks old he had these horrible bumps on him. In the past two years I have had him back and forth to the vet for staph infections, but now things are getting worse. In the past two months we have been back and forth to the vet with him because his skin broke out again and he was starting to get raw. He has always had hair missing, as well but that was getting worse, too. The vet said he had a staph infection again so we put him on antibiotics, then he got a yeast infection from those meds, so he was on a different medicine for that. We went back for a check- up and the staph came back with a new bacteria called Bacillus. The vet said that it is an enviromental bacteria, but she has know idea what is causing it. Has anyone else's dog had the same bacteria? Of course, he is back on antibiotics. The vet also diagnosed him with Alopecia and I have to bathe him every other day with special shampoos, one to open hair follicles and another to remove the dead skin cells on him. I also have to use special conditioning spray constantly and I switched his dog food to science diet, which the vet suggested I do. Is there anything else that anyone knows of that could be helpful to my dog? I just want him happy and healthy and am willing to try anything that might help him.

There is a website that might be helpful to you - it is for blue and fawn Dobermans. Here is the link: 

 

 http://seattle-attorney.com/storm/sup.html

 

Good luck!

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lots of great information here on the forum for the dilute colors they do have skin problems due to their genetics sounds like your guy may have more of a rough time where some here have had great luck with not having so many issues. I would suggest changing the food as science diet is not the best food either, but take it slow since your little guy is already stressed one step at a time.....

PS - Probiotics after any antibiotics will help keep yeast down

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I would recommend finding a Holistic vet for the time being with Axel haveing skin issues. They may offer a different approach to his skin issues than your current vet. His skin issues may not be 100% curable, but it can be more manageable Storms Regime (posted above) should be a good start. When I fed my doberman kibble who had mild skin discomforts with kibble I always tried to feed a quality grain free brand it helped a little but I ultimately switched him off of all kibble and he does much better. I used dogfood advisor to help me pick and choose better quality dogfoods.

 

I copied the link below of an article I found on Dogs Naturally Magazine regarding yeast infections and dog food. 

http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/grain-free-dog-foods-solving-yeast-...

 

Good luck with Axel!

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I have a blue dobe. When he was a pup he would get those little bumps. I was told to bathe him often and learned that was not the right thing to do for ours. Seems like it made him worse. I switched his food to taste of the wild grain free. I wiped him down with unscented baby wipes and brushed him daily. Then would spray him down with listerine and water mixed. Once I started doing thT his bumps went away and he hasn't had them since. His coat is very shiny and he gets compliments all the time. He does shed though but it's controllable with brushing. He hasn't had an out break in 8 months now. 

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That's exactly what's happening with my blue dobe right now.  She's 12 wks old.  How much listerine?  Half and half?  I'm willing to try anything! 

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2 ounces listerine to 18 ounces of water. I spray it on and then wipe it off with a towel. 

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Great thanks!!  The blue kind?  Can you add pictures on here?  I wanted to show you what they looked like

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Hi everyone ,  Seems like some of us are having problems with skin staph infection with our Dobies.  Axel my two year old Doberman has had problems for a long time,  I seem to have started with his ear cropping.  I would take him to vet  get meds and be ok for a while.  Last summer on vacation he go hit by car and broke his leg.  $6,000 later taking him home  to orthopedic doc every day to change leg cast.  Axel got staph in his leg and had to be hospitalized for a week, his leg heeled and staph went away.   Axel wa on very strong antibotics, because this staph infection will not be destroyed by very many antibotics.  Axel now has this on his skin , bathe every day with trizchlor4 shampoo and spray and ointment with 30 days of doxy.   Well staph is back and derm said they are trying 1/2 cup bleach to a gallon of water,  pour over skin wait 5 minutes and rinse.  We are at  about $12,000 on Axel,  I love the boy very much ,  not much left to do.  The only other med is IV and would most likely destroy kidneys.  I hope all of you luck and don't end up in my situation   Thanks 

 

 

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Hey, Lovedobermans and Jessiemelton...welcome to the forum! Are you the same person? Do you both have a dog named Axel?

I have heard that the way to deal with some alopecia and other weak skin / inflammation issues/ allergies is by feeding the best quality dog food you can afford. People who feed raw or partial raw (like us)  often report radiant health and glossy fur.

See dogfoodadvisor.com for highly recommended food

 Also coconut oil, olive oil, or omega-3 fish oil on fur or right in the food should help a lot. They say that too many baths are not usually the right thing, nor are too many chemicals or drugs going to ever make a cure. Time to get into the healthy and natural cycle asap. There are many testimonials to these ideas online and on this site.

I feel for you, I hope there is a way that you find to heal Axels skin.

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Hi jessymelton,

My brown female Doberman Cooper is now 1 year and 37 weeks old ans has the same problem. I noticed when she was one year old that her fur on the sides was much more thin and light. Right now she is going bold on the sides. I talked to the vet (he breeds Dobermans) and he told me this kind of problem is usual on Blue Steel and Brown Dobermans and its due to a thyroid malfunction (hormonal) that causes Alopecia.  The other brown Doberman from the same litter have the exact same problem so it´s a genetic issue. So we are currently running tests to see what´s the problem, to apply the appropriate medication to control the hormones. Cooper is also taking vitamins for her fur.

My worst concern is that the fur does not grow back again :(

wish you all the best

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Hi everyone,

I'm really worried after reading all of these posts. My Angus is 4.5 months, black and rust . We brought him home at a reAlly young age and got him off a BYB (which I learned after I brought him home and hrs of research) . But I noticed he had some scabbings on his muzzle when we first brought him. Then I learn the baby had fleas and had him sprayed by the vet. After that he began to get really flaky skin. During his first two months I bathed him about three times . Rised him when he first came home and first bath at 6.5 weeks. 

I was told to rubb coconut oil on his coat for shine and skin moisturizing and after clearing it with vet I did at 8 weeks . I feed him Natures receipe for puppy and green beans and carrots for snacks . Just last month I started him on puppy biscuit treats for good behavior . 

I mentioned the dry skin to vet and I was told to give fish oil or durmadabs . However, I'm worried because his coat has been falling out more then usuall because I can now see his skin on the back area where the dryness occurs and now there are lumps of skin almost callus like . I called my vet and I was told to give him Benadryl twice a day and if there is no imporvment then to take him in. 

But I am worried after reading these posts, is this normal for all dobies? 

I had a dodie growing up and I don't remember this ever happening . 

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Hi, two different dogs.  Axel has staph skin infection. He also has allergies, going to try homemade food.   I do give him coconut oil,   I'm so scared that this staph will take him from me.  My doctor also thinks that he may be from a week gene pool.  But I can say that this staph infection in animals is getting bad. 

thanks

donna

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Hi, Axel started out like this.  I took him to the vet and he said bacteria skin infection and gave me meds.  Axel was ok for a while , then it came back and I started noticing a smell, took him to the vet and he did a skin scraping and it came back staph intermedius which is very hard to get rid of .  We have used almost everthing on him.  The derm. said to use 1/2 cup bleach to 1 gallon water and clean the problem spots.  This worked prett good.  You leave on 10 minutes and rince.   Last week vet called and they have been going to meetings on this and they say now to leave on 20 minutes and keep wet.  with bleach water. (then rince)  I hope this works for him.  I love this dog very much.

Donna

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Hi,

     No we are not the same person. But that is pretty neat that we both have the same bred of dog and chose to name them the same thing. So heres an update on Axel, I recently tried cooking axel chicken, rice, and veges, topped with olive oil to see if that would make a difference and no luck. The poor guy is almost bald besides a few spots which are by his tail and by his shoulder blades. He just recently started breaking out again but not as bad as he was. But I also quit washing him like the vet told me to and he hasn't been as bad. Just hoping that he is not going to fully break out again and cost me another grand at the vet. I feel so bad for him I know this has to be miserable. Any ideas since I think I am all idea'd out?

 

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Hy Everyone,

 

Thank you for your responses to my post. My Axel is almost 4 now and I have tried so many different things but you all have given me great new ideas to try out. Axel is still suffering from the same issues. He has consistantly broken out with the bumps and then they will either go away on their own or we have to take a trip to the vet. Now unfortunately he had lost a lot of his hair. It is very thin everywhere besides on his hinny and on the lower part of the back of his neck. I did notice that once I stopped bathing him as much he wasn't drying out as bad but have had to live with the smell of his skin. I don't think that will ever go away, but I love him so I just have to learn how to deal with it.

 

I'm sorry that you are having these issues - I've seen bald Dobermans in rescue and other than the care of their skin, they are fine with it.  I don't think I've ever seen a mature blue Doberman that didn't have some hair loss. Thank you for loving him - have you spent time on the website I gave you last year?

 

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Hey Fitzmar,

Yes I did thank you for that it had a lot of good information. After I read that they don't shampoo their dog that frequently I stopped. I haven't tried the listerine thing but have wanted to just worried I might hurt him more than I would help him. I also tried feeding I stopped feeding Axel Science Diet because I didn't see an improvement at all, I think the vet just knew that I would try anything and she could make more money because I could only by it from her because nowhere else around here sold it. While I do like my vet alot, I sometimes wonder if she isn't nickel and diming me to death. She still has not done a thyroid test on him yet which worries me as well. What type of dog food do you use for your dogs if you don't mind me asking? I did start feeding my dogs a rice a chicken mix with vegetables and olive oil on it, but having three kids and three dogs that can be one heck of a task every day.