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I am so scared!! My 10yo unneutred male fell last week as a result of (our vets best guess) a slipped or something disk in low back.  He has lost all weight bearing in his hind legs and is on very high doses of prednisone, tramadol and methocarbanol.  We have to carry him out to potty but will walk in on a towel sling dragging his hind legs. We did a boiled chicken rice and hamb diet. Our baby lex doesn't ever eat human food. He started soft kibble yesterday as well.  He ended up being constipated from Thursday threw Monday. His stools are very liquid and only today after a "fart" it looked like clotty almost raspberry liquid. I'm terrified of loosing him but don't want him to suffer. Could this simply be from all these huge changes or could it be time to make that choice??

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This is the hardest part of owning a companion animal. But it is part of the responsibility we take on when we choose that puppy or rescue. I believe we owe it to our companions to see that they dont suffer unneccasarily.

Our love for them is not measured in how long we keep them, but how well we look after them while they are with us.

I'm not trying to influence you one way or the other, but just to let you know that this is a part of the journey we all share, and though we are all at different stages right now, we will all be where you are, or have been where you are, and I'm sure anyone here reading this now will wish you all the best with the hardest of all choices you might make.

 

 

 

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This is a long shot, but worth mentioning...

Being as how your boy is intact, does he have an enlarged prostate? My vet told me a while ago if a male dog has an enlarged prostate and it gets big enough, it impinges on the nerves in the spine affecting the hindquarters. She told me she had a client whose dog dropped to the ground, unable to use his hindquarters, and instead of euthanizing, they neutered him, helping him get around for a while. He completely recovered, and it didn't take long - I think within a couple of weeks.

When neutering a dog with BPH, the prostate will shrink back down to the size of a walnut, no longer affecting the nerves.

I ask about that because an enlarged prostate might also cause bloody stool from the small passageway irritated from bowel movements going past it.

The Tramadol can be constipating. I always give psyllium powder with it to keep the bowel movements "slippery."  Psyllium can also help diarrhea, bulking them up a bit. You might want to try a teaspoon in each meal.

Anyway, like I said, it's a long shot.

You and your boy are in my prayers.......

 

 

 

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Thanks oz for the great words. We have decided that if lex is suffering it means it's time for him to protect the rest if our family that's no longer with us. My 12 yo old son (and lex's best friend put it best...  " mom the tears and pain over the last week will never take away the best ten years of my life!!"

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Thanks oz for the great words. We have decided that if lex is suffering it means it's time for him to protect the rest if our family that's no longer with us. My 12 yo old son (and lex's best friend put it best...  " mom the tears and pain over the last week will never take away the best ten years of my life!!"

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Kim thanks!!  Something I never thought of!!  I will call the vet and ask some q's!!

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All it'll take is a rectal exam. (Ouch.) 

Another symptom of an enlarged prostate is the bowel movements start to "flatten out" instead of being round in shape, due to the prostate pressing up into the intestinal wall and making it narrower. (Which is what would cause blood in the stool as well.)

Good luck, and wow, is your son wise beyond his years, bless his heart!

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I hate this part of loving these kids.

Please stay in touch and Oz is right.. we're all here for you.

Katie, Sofia, and Bella

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So a more happy note.... We would love to always have a dobie in our home. Is this a good place to find a puppy in Minnesota?  

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Thanks lady Kate! It so is! He is one of the kids!! My favorite times with lex by far is each night I have to tuck him into bed with his boy. His own special blankie and pillow

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So an update on lex.  After X-rays we have learned he has a partial slipped disk with arthritis. He is as happy as he can be and is starting to walk for us!!! Dies anyone have advice on how to stop or teach him how to not knuckle his back paws. He is getting up on normal feet but he does it when taking his steps :)

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What kind of treatment does your vet recommend?

As far as I know, you can't "teach" him to not knuckle under - it's a symptom of his nerves being pinched from the disc.

I'd be doing a ton of holistic stuff for him at this point, if it was me.

1500 mg. glucosamine, 1200 mg. chondroitin, 1500 mg. MSM, 2,000 mg Buffered or Ester C (NOT ascorbic acid, which will tear up his stomach), and Wobenzyme for inflammation - dosage dependent on weight.

Chiropractic and acupuncture. Low level Laser if you can find a vet who has one.

Move-Free Plus MSM has all three of the first ingredients - you can double up on that the first month. It's on sale often at Meijer and Walmart.

Good luck with him, and hope that helps!

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So far he still on tramadol, prednisone and methocarbanol. We are almost 4 weeks out and vet really hasn't said bout the knuckling. I call souch I feel like a bother:/ thanks for the advice, I'll look into some of those! 

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So glad to hear that he has been diagnosed with something treatable and hopefully manageable.

 Bella sends nose dabs and play bows to your dobie boy, hope he gets spunky again real soon:)

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oh ok I answered this one in the other thread on this I mentioned water therapy to build the muscles without further strain on the spine ask the vet about this