Orijen dog food?

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Does any one feed Origen to their dober-babies? Or does anyone have any thoughts or comments about this brand of food?

Please help! doing research to decided what I would like to feed my new baby when she come home in Nov.

Thank you for your time

Amanda

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orijen is a great food, but it tends to be a bit rich for many dobermans, from what i have read.  I have never fed orijen, but that's not to say it's not a great quality food.

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As Kevin stated, that is what I heard too ...I have been on a quest for the perfect food for Enzo. I have settled with Nature's Variety Lamb limited ingredient, an all stages food.. protein not too high and good for poopie puppies.. :)  Congrats on your new pup soon ! Cheers ~

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We tried to feed Harley Orijen, but it never settled well with him.  Now we feed Natures Variety and we rotate flavors.

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I recommend RAW feeding firstly :) But it's not for everyone. If feeding dry food is what you prefer I would recommend a grain free food like Taste of the Wild or Canidae. We have fed both but prefer TOTW for the nutritional and economical value :) 

But as others said Orijen is a good quality also :)

Sian

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Also wanted to add that it seems (drum roll please...) that Nature's Variety Instict Lamb Limited Ingredient has done the trick for Enzo's long saga of digestive issues.  In addition, the vet prescribed Iams Prosotra probiotic and I think it has helped with the food transition! :)

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Orijen has great reviews so by all means if you want to try it see how it agrees with your pup. If it doesn't work out research another brand and go from there. My pup started on blue jumped to totw then wellness and back on totw. I reccomend totw as well. It's a great value for the price. Tried above mentioned brands at the same price and Magnum's system just didn't agree so this is the dogfood he will remain on. Best part is they too have a variety and all seem to agree with him. He has a shiner coat and beginning to fill out on this one so it's a win. 

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We're in the process of switching our almost 11 week old puppy to Orijen (currently doing 50/50 with old food).  We're making it a long transition, but his poops haven't changed at all through the process.  From the beginning, we used Orijen as treats so he'd get used to the taste and didn't start the transition until he was almost 10 weeks old.

 

We feed Orijen (the cat kind) to our cat and have his entire life (almost 5 years now) and the vet always compliments his coat and health.  We researched brands EXTENSIVELY, using this site as a starting point and I was a little disappointed that some dobe owners found it didn't agree with doberbellies, but we wanted to try it anyway.  So far, so good.

 

A lot of my research also involved looking at large breed versus small breed formulas.  I learned that it is VERY important to avoid foods with a large amount of calcium and phosphorous (large meaning more than like 1.8-2%) because that's what contributes to "overgrowth" in "large breed" dogs (not the large amount of protein, as see in Orijen).  A lot of lower-quality large breed formulas will have the maximum allowed calcium and phos. levels because they get their animal protein through bones and other "crap", so it has a high animal protein %age, but also high calcium and phosphorous.

 

Because of the tummy issues people posted about with Orijen, I considered Taste of the Wild instead, but on their bags they do not post the maximum amount of calcium and phosphorous.  I tried contacting the company, but it was over 4th of July weekend, so it took them a while to get back to me.  Anyway, their levels are absolutely SAFE for dobermans, so I'd go with that if you're hesitant because so many people here feed it.  That's our backup if Orijen ends up not working out.  It's also cheaper.

 

I'm no expert, but I always do too much research before making a serious purchase.  I'll keep you posted with how our pup Kevin

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(sorry, didn't finish sentence) ...does when he is fully transitioned, since you still have lots of time to decide.

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Thank you all so much for your input. The parents of the puppy have been on orijen for almost 5 years I beleive. Granted the puppies arent born yet and arent due until sept. Orijen is what he breeder suggested we feed and I just wanted to get further opinions. I will keep doing my reasearch and of course see what works best for the pup (and my wallet...lol)

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orijen is a great food but like said earlier...you have to be careful not to overfeed...because of richness...natures variety very good also...they even have a natures variety boost with the kibble and freeze dried raw in same bag now!!

 

http://www.naturesvariety.com/Instinct/dog/kibble/rawboost/all

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Palomino,

Just wanted to update you on Kevin's transition to Orijen, because I said I would. 

He is still not FULLY on it because we have so much of his previous food, so we're still mixing.  But now he's on about 75% Orijen and 25% other.  His coat is becoming shinier, thicker, and softer.  His poops are no mushier or harder than when he was on his original food - just darker, but Orijen is dark.  We noticed that his poos tend to disappear in the yard - they must disintegrate more easily ... or maybe our rabbit or possum friends like it.

He's doing great.  I know it's expensive, but I'm very happy with it and his adjustment to it.  Good luck!

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On the topic of feeding, when we wondered how much to feed, I found this site:

http://www.dog-first-aid-101.com/vital-signs.html

If you go to this link, there is a handy dog food calculator at the bottom of this web site's page.  Get your bag of dog food with the protein contents, fibre, fat, moisture handy before starting. 

 We tried it to determine amount to feed Daymian since he gained 2 pounds in 2 months since we had him. We were giving him just a cup too much, according to this site.  I wanted to keep him at his current weight as our vet says he's perfect.  Much harder to reduce a dog's weight later I would think.

It asks first to input your dog's weight, & life stage, puppy, adult, working dog, or senior.  Then calculates the calories of your food based on the protein, etc.  It tells you the total number of cups for your brand per day.

Now I am not sure this will work with every dog & kibble type, but more of a he real guideline.

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I currently have Drake on Orijen Six Fish (to try for 2 months) but he'll be switching off once I'm finished with this bag.  He's not able to fully digest it and almost every day, half or less of his poop is liquid.  He's had his annual checkup after the first bag and doesn't have any parasites (or any other health issues for that matter) so the food (Orijen is the only thing he's eating) is being called the cause.

We're switching him back to Evo.  He's done well on Evo before but I wanted to try a) to rotate his food and b) try Orijen because it has great reviews.  Personally, it's not worth the money and I didn't like the results.  There's talk Evo went down in quality because they were bought by P&G and people hate when large companies buy small companies because they "destroy them".  The pet food rating websites still give them 5* even after a couple years since the purchase by P&G and my mother-in-law is a high level in the Innova sector of P&G and says they haven't changed the formula or the source of the ingredients since bought.


I thought about trying TOTW and Wellness (both manufactured (or were) by Diamond) prior to the recall but never bought it and won't buy it due to their manufacturer having a history of recalls.  I heard Wellness stopped using Diamond but changing manufacturers, etc could change the quality of food.  I haven't heard any updates from the pet food rating websites about it.


One thing people talk about concerning high protein content are possible kidney problems or other health problems.  For an "active" dog, for example, if you go with Evo Red Meat, its protein is 42% and 3.25 cups per day; Orijen Regional Red protein is 38% and 3.75 cups per day.  They're getting the same protein levels but it's also about personal preference on how much "extras" you want.  Every company has their own phiosophy on what's the best combination.  I just go with what's working for the dog.  I just make sure they get enough water as more protein in food requires more water. Every "grain-free" dog food has a "high" protein level in my mind.

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Not sure if you're still checking in, Amanda, but I want to let you know we're admitting defeat to Orijin.  We wanted so badly for it to work out for Kevin - wanting the best food, irregardless of price - but Kevin slowly developed loose stools, then eventually diarrhea.  After a second bought or diarrhea, we're taking him to the vet tomorrow but I have a suspicion the food is to blame, based on all the research I've done and other peoples' experiences.  We're nixing the grain-free diet altogether and plan on trying again when he's developed and hopefully able to handle the richness.

You can always try it. That's what I told myself I'd do, despite many people saying it's too rich.  I just can't watch him poo out mush piles any more. 

 

Good luck!

Jessica