Is no not feeling pain ok?

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So many if you know that back in December lex slipped a lumbar disk resulting in some paralysis.  As of now he is not on any meds and the vet says as far as she can tell he is not in any pain.  The best way to describe his walking is "drunk butt" sloppy gate weak lumbar area and knuckling. In the house he gets around (still lives for chasing bane, toys and us) and we use a sling to get him down a few stairs to go outside.  Seems a very happy boy.  Always smiling, loves his toys, treats and sleeping next to his boy. Pottying is semi ok. He pees outside but seems to not be able to feel a b.m.  We have it timed so we mostly get it outside.  

My question is, I think he is not only not in pain, but also can't feel the pain. I hate to think he is happy if he's not. My husband says it's time :( but our vet and I see that he hasn't lost a whole lot of happiness in his normal day. 

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This has to be concerning.. I do know that our Dobermans are extremely stoic.. but if he were in pain, you'd probably know it.. they avoid us, face the wall, walk kind of scrunched up.. do not want to be touched.. cringe when you go near them..

What do his eyes say? Do they still dance? does the nub wag??

When you say your husband says:' It's time.' Does that mean he wants to put him to sleep?

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He is a very happy boy in my eyes.  He wags the nub so hard his back sways :). He still smiles when we rub the ears or tell him how much we love him.  

I say he isn't feeling pain cause a couple times when I have taken him out on the sling he pulls me sooo hard!! I have stepped on his rear foot once or twice and he doesn't even yelp, he could care less.  He has all his reflexes and responds when I touch his rear legs.  He does however bark at bane when bane tries to bite his rear end area.

We have all decided when lex isn't happy and or has a "not good" quality of life that we will put him to sleep. I however see him chase his ball, get excited for treats and new toys, chase bane and want to run outside.  We don't do many "walks" with the boys but we do rollerblade with them and that is one thing lex can't do.  He does get upset when bane goes and he doesn't. I however have a pinched nerve in my back so I can't go with either so lex and I do treats and training things and he loves that.  Since he can't jump up on things we will occasionally help him get on the couch and he is beyond smiles.

It's sad to say but lex and I have had many "talks" and he is really my very best friend. When I look in his eyes I see love and still the undevided devotion he has always had.  

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that is so sweet ! sounds like he has some good quality time left .i think you will know when it's time for now love love love him ! sunna and i wish you all best of luck !

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I totally agree with Karie...

One of the most difficult times we ever face with our kids is to know when... 'it's time.' and I believe and totally trust that when that time does get here... we will have no doubt. They tell us. or so I am told.

A little help getting down stairs and up on sofas..... not a bad thing.. in fact the bonding that you and Lex do; will cement your relationship with him even further.

He's teaching you a valuable lesson of courage, faith and love. Just another chapter.

Bless you.. and many prayers for everyone..

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Thanks so much guys :). I have spent many of "naps" laying next to him hoping I'm doing what's best.  I know that we are by NO means the same as our pups but my argument at home is this. "When I couldnt walk after my back surgery, or when I pinched my nerve, they helped me threw It and didn't give up evenwhen I wanted too!" I really do love all the advice (good and bad) that everyone here gives!  And @lady Kate, im in the process of getting your book :). I can't wait to read it! (And I'm really not a big reader of anything that's higher then the preschoolers I teach ;))

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Dani... Thank you.. I think you will enjoy Life With a DoberDiva as it's written for the younger ( or at the very least the sillier of readers) It's a quick read and guess what?? MOST of it is absolutely true. Sofia tells me it's absolute fact.. but she's a diva and tends to .... um.. sort of 'color' her adventures..

Give Lex a hug for us..

 

I think he will tell you when it's time.... but watch for it. It is easy to explain away gradual changes in our dogs until one day we really see how unhappy they are. Try not to let it get to that point.... an occasional bad day is ok...but several bad days is not.