Lick granulomas, do u have an obsessive dobie?

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Hello! I'm a newbie here! We have a 5 year old female dobie :)

She is a great dog! She just has some issues....

She is a compulsive licker, she has had the same open wound on her front paw for 2 years. She made the wound in the beginning by licking. She's kinda a nerotic dog.

Well we have now tried everything we have put a cone on her 24/7 only taking off for quick ear rubs, well she quickly rips at her wound, and now she can get around the cone lol. I work at a vet clinic and the vets have tried everything, except drugs, I have been against it so far. But this looks like our last resort.
The plan by the vet and me is to put her on drugs to stop the licking untill the wound heals, then pull her off and we can moniter enough to hopefully not start a new wound.

I don't like putting my animals on drugs but we have tried EVERYTHING else and her paw is getting sorer and sorer. Its time for drugs....

So anyone else had/have this problem? How did you solve it? Drugs? If so did the drugs work? Any side effects? And which drugs?

Thanks guys!

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Hi Princess11 and welcome to the forum.

So sorry to hear about the lick granulomas. Even more sorry to say I have no advice, but you've come to the right place.

This forum is choc-a-block full of wonderful people who have either experienced the same problems or at least have answers for you.

How long has she been doing this? Was there anything traumatic happening just before she started that might have prompted neurotic behavior?

Hoping we can help.

I'm sorry to hear that. Many dogs have this problem. We have had 2 Dobermans that did this. The first was when I was a young child and the dog had been hit by a car and had to have a metal plate in his leg. He would not quit licking that for anything. It was a constant open wound.

My other experience with it was our old girl Elly who was put to sleep this last summer. The year before she had a huge cancerous surgery where they removed 30 percent of her leg muscle. She had a drain in her leg for a few weeks and where the drain was she never left it alone afterwards. Up until her death this year she still had an open wound that she would not let heal.

I would go to the Doberman talk forum and look through the archives. I think you are going to get much more trustworthy advice there than you are on here. You can google Doberman talk forum, once you are on then search for lick granulomas. I found a ton of posts on it many that you will be able to relate to. When you use the search button it will bring up lots of posts, as you scan down them they might not look like it has anything to do with the lick granulomas but somewhere in the thread will talk about it. Some are better than others. Very helpful suggestions.

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Glengate thank you for reposting that subject I forgot we discussed this on this group.

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from mddobermans: "..I would go to the Doberman talk forum and look through the archives. I think you are going to get much more trustworthy advice there than you are on here.."

 

WHAT?  Why would advice from there be "much more trustworthy" than from here or anyplace else? 

Sheeesh.

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Thanks guys, I'm sure I saw more comments on my thread earlier but most seemed to have dissapeard!? Maybe its because I'm on an iPhone?

Anyway, nothing traumatic has ever happened to our dobie, we have had her since she was 8weeks and she has been nerotic and a little off since the day we got her. Numerous trainers, vets, behaviorist etc... Have not been able to really help her.

Although she is so much more normal the last year or so, she has a good routine and following helps her stay calm. Other than the licking lol.

We did find out her littermates are the same way she is and that her breeder is known for breeding fear agressive, nerotic dobies.... But the breeding is done we've dealt with it and we just wanna fix her wound now. I'm thinking a round of drugs is worth a try. Putting anything on the wound to make it taste bad does not work, we've tried it all, she's nerotic lol!!!!

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I just decided to take down some of the things I put up because it just lead to a little misunderstanding, sorry to confuse you.

It's hard to deal with dogs that are acting out in that way.  I have had neurotic dogs in the past and when we tried different medicaitons, it didn't calm them down.  I'm hoping this is not the case for your girl.  I'm sure you've spent a lot of money on her trying to fix her behavior.  My friend had a jack russel that went for his tail, spun in circles, and all this other "crazy" behavior.  Her vet advised her to just put him to sleep and she refused.  Well.. he's 12 now, still has a nub of a tail, and no longer spins in circles.  So hopefully you find your answer to make your girl better.

Let us know how it goes if you find something to make her stop.

Okay I guess I'm going to have to address that statement. This was not a comment to offend anyone so please I hope nobody else will take it that way. Let me TRY and explain.

The other list that I  refer to is filled with very well known breeders,handlers,some veterinarians and professionals in our breed along with a ton of pet people. It has been around for a long time and has quite the library of posts and things for info.

This list GD is a fun group one with few members in comparison and for the most part is filled with just pet people who have purchased or received their first Doberman. It is a great list for basic info and friendships but not so much for other advice.

Trustworthy may have not been the correct word to use. It is not that this group is not trustworthy. It is it lacks the experience and the professionals in our breed that the other group has to offer. They both have a place that make them both important.

I have a large base of things, people and or groups that I will turn to when I need advice on my Dobermans or training issues. When I do ask for advice I want it from people I know and I know have the experience to answer it. Because I know alot of people on the other list and know the backgrounds involved and who they are I'm more comfortable with asking things there if I cant find them elsewhere.

I hope that helps explain without making it worse.

Good luck Princess in your search for help with this. It can be extremely frustrating.

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To mddobermans: Thank you for clarifying that statement.  I guess I was just in a sour mood at work when I read it and took it to be stronger than you intended.  Sorry. :)

I also go to several forums (2 doberman specific forums, 2 Rat terrier forums, and 2 general dog forums) when I have a question that I'm looking for answers to. Nothing wrong in researching as many angles as possible before making a decision about something that you dont know what to do about, because possibly someone else has had that same problem and knows the best solution.

As far as the licking goes, I had a doberman once that did that to her left back foot.  Couldnt make her stop....she would stop when she thought someone was watching her, but would lick her foot into an open wound time and time again during the night.  My vet said it was a nervous habit, and we put antibiotic ointments on it to keep infection down and he put a lightweight, airy, temporary cast on her foot until it at least scabbed up and was not open and oozing. We just had to keep her occupied with other things--toys, food, exercise, etc. to keep her from going back and starting it up again.  Over the years, she slowed down her licking that one spot, but never totally gave it up.

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Thanks guys :)

I really do wish this was more of a training issue, but its just "her"  I guess its kinda like a nervous person who cant stop biting there nails or something like that lol.  Unfortunatly shes hurting herself in the process.... 

 

Im gonna bring her to work with me yet again lol this week and see what drug therapy options there are for her.  I have a feeling drugs arent going to work, she is as nerotic as they come lol!