eggs in the food

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ok so I have been reading with great interest the advice on food for our dogs and I see alot of people mentioning egg in their dogs food - is this raw egg or cooked and if it's raw is there any worry about the salmonella that is so prevalent in mass produced eggs??? or does the dogs digestive system naturally take care of things like that??? this is one subject I have a bit of knowledge in but not raw food such as eggs.....

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Hi Talisin, recently purchase or fresh eggs layed.

Cracked on the food bowl, and served for eating straight away.

If there is hesitation, or it looks as though the bowl will be unattended then throw it out.

Usually mixed in with a rice, chicken and veg mix.

A point of interest is that egg white is a complex protein designed to protect the yoke from biological attack. There is evidence that egg white strips the bacterial balance from the intestines because of colonic protein fermentation, this is when allot of protein makes it into the intestines. This is why many people become allergic to egg and it is for this reason that my opinion is that this should be done only occasionally.

But the results are noticeable, silkiness and appearance improve vastly, just keep an eye on intestinal health as you may need probiotics for balance.

hope this helps.

 

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Tali, we feed a quality kibble and add an egg once in a while.  We have done it with all our dogs for over 20 years with no problems.  They love it and their coats are gorgeous.

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Thank you for that, I know Sampson already has a sensitive stomach I wonder if I should take the chance......he has to eat sensitive stomach wet food even the dry disagrees with him.....anyone have sensitive tummy dog that eat raw eggs ok???

Any suggestions on wet food that would be good for sensitive stomach other than those labeled as such cause he is costing us $100 a WEEK - we will continue to feed him that way but if we could find a bit more affordable food that would be great......

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Would you consider raw/ It is what their stomache is built for

I also read that salmonella is naturally rebuffed by the dogs body 

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As most are aware I feed a wholly raw diet anyways, and my pup gets an egg twice a week raw including shell. Dog's systems when fed raw are well equipped to deal with salmonella, their stomach pH is lower than a dog which is also fed grains, but I think it should still be fine for most dogs unless they are immune compromised. Also be aware I know feeding too many can cause problems with excess biotin.

In the UK we have a 'Lion' stamped on eggs which are mass produced, which means that the hen who layed it has been vaccinated against salmonella, not sure if you have a similar system in the US Tal? Might put your mind at rest :)

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Tali, I'm sorry but I can't help much with sensitivity questions.  Our dogs are country dogs that eat all manner of gross and disgusting things and they have not had digestive issues.  Maybe horse manure is good for their digestive tracts ...  

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Both our girls have a sensitivity. Have tried a lot of different kibble and now have them on home cooked soft food.. Am picking up some Royal Canin designed for intestinal digestion tomorrow.. would like to add some crunch for them. Plus I don't feel they're getting enough vitamins and nutrients they need.. I do add a supplement to their chicken, brown rice, sweet potatoes and green beans..pumpkin and honey....on the side... but I make such a huge batch it seems to get lost in it somewhere..

Will let you know how we do..good luck .. it can be so frustrating trying to figure out what the culprit might be...

But back to your orginal question re: eggs... I supplement two scrambled eggs in lieu of meat once a week.. No raw here..I would like to be able to trust it.. but this is Mexico.

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Over the years I have fed Otto (lab/heeler mix) a homemade diet supplemented with kibble and it works great for him. I am so paranoid about commercial wet pet food, and kibble alone leaves him with such a dry, dull coat which eventually leads to horrid hotspots. There are a number of really good sources to look into online and in print. Otto gets one very lightly cooked egg on low heat in coconut oil with his breakfast and I have never had any intestinal problems with him. Might just be his system though, or maybe cooking denatures enought of the proteins that it is less of an issue. It does make a huge difference though.

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It just occurred to me that I may not have problems because Otto also gets plain yogurt daily, which could compensate for the probiotics lost.

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I occasionally put scrambled egg in my dog's kibble.  DJ would eat it raw with no problem, but I have a very finicky eater (Lucy, one of my Ratties) and she will not touch her food at all if there is raw egg in it...so I figure if I have to cook it for some, might as well cook it for all. 

All my dogs get a tablespoon of cottage cheese in their evening kibble daily.

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wow lots of great advice to work with here....thanks!!!

I know Sammie can't eat hard food so he is on wet, I believe like with Ben and the cancer he just can't stomach anything his poor system has to literally digest so it comes right back up....the vet recommended the wet he is on to make sure he is getting all his nutrients....I would not feel comfortable with trying to provide enough of the right things with a raw diet and the pre packaged raw food is now becoming very contaminated due to improper storage, of course we take a good thing and ruin it with mass production.....as for any labeling here in the USA - what's labeling, a joke around here, we don't labeling on human food hardly at all so "no" there is no label that helps with salmonella stuff...

I am staying away from sweet potato and yams etc. as the natural estrogens in them are being studied as there is evidence that it can encourage cancer growth especially in dogs that already have tumor growth and Sammie is covered in tumors. (I worry sometimes that I might have encouraged Ben's cancer growth by allowing the specialist to switch him over to sweet potato and venison for 2 years....with his cancer already there but unknown to us we might have speeded up the growth with all that sweet potato..........)

Sammie is doing great on the food he is on but dang the cost is HIGH I don't even spend $100 a week on us for food but he gets it :)) I guess this is where the phrase "eat me out of house and home" would come in......I will try to add some extras maybe and stretch his food as long as the vet approves of the additions and I don't compromise the nutrient levels......eggs sound easy enough as does cottage cheese

with the raw diets - what is RAW

with people raw diet means cooked slowly to a low temperature but isn't raw for dogs just that - raw meat???