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hello,

i am new to this forum. I have a doberman puppy of 55 days old his coat is not so thick and glossy too. His built is also not as heavy as it supposed to be. His pic is the same as of the account.

Would appreciate your suggestions and help in context to this.

Thanks to the dobby experts in advance. 

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He might not be getting adequate nutrition. What do you feed him?

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How much does he weigh? He looks fine to me. Puppy dobermans are not big and thick, they don't fill out until they are much older. The food will make a difference in his coat. I always gave mine a sardine as well as an egg once a week (on different days), that helps with coat. My girl (9 months now) was always so skinny! you could always see all her ribs, no matter what I fed her, until I changed to a raw diet. I would investigate food choices first.

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Thanks a lot for your reply friends. He weighs 3kgs i feed him cerelac will be starting with curd rice and veggies soon. Right now i feed him cerelac twice a day and milk twice a day i am a vegetarian so i avoid getting non veg foods. This is the main reason why i have joined this forum so you people can help me out.

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Welcome :) I use grain free puppy formula kibble and a teaspoon of fish oil once a day ! I also give and egg once a week :) he's get a mix of fresh pet puppy formula as well durin dinner time. Mine now 4 months is not super filled out but he's not under weight and eats 3 times a day two cups each time. But yes don't worry about him not filling out they won't for awhile !

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I'm not sure that dogs are meant to be vegetarian. An ok choice for you but better make sure you do your homework for a carnivore.

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Agreed dogs need meat to grow and have a proper diet and veggie diet for a developing puppy or any dog is not the way to go... 

Especially with this breed cuz my experience with my boy is they grow fast and I mean fast and need a proper diet to support that. 

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Dogs need animal proteins and, while its okay to give them carrot sticks and such as treats, they really need a primarily meat diet. Feeding your pup a veg diet is really doing him a disservice and he could end up with all sorts of health problems later in life if he isn't already experiencing them. I don't mean to be harsh, I just want to help educate to keep these guys safe and healthy.

Animal proteins are what help these guys to flourish and, as I'm a vegetarian as well (I joke about bacon quite a bit) I can attest that, while its perfectly okay for us to abstain from meat products, they're absolutely essential for our babies' health, no matter how we feel about it.

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Couldn't have said it better myself :) please take the diet advice to heart because these are very special puppies and deserve what's best for them despite how one might feel about meat your puppy needs it to grow, develops, and be 100 percent healthy and that's what important 

 

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Thanks a lot i will surely work on it. I dont wanna compromise on anything when it comes to the health of caspar....my dobby boy is just 57 days old so what meat shall i feed him. I am thinkng of kick starting with a raw egg in his morning milk.

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Raw eggs are good, but I wouldn't give him milk. Animals don't have the ability to digest dairy like we can after they've been weaned. Humans are practically the only species able to sustain a regular intake of dairy products. What your boy really needs is a good, grain-free kibble. You could also feed chicken, without the bone of course, and rice. Rice is the only grain that I haven't had a problem with for dogs. Not a whole lot, though. Also, the raw egg should only be fed once or twice a week. Fish oil is good for their health as well. The kibble is probably the best way to go. You can find some really good ones that are cruelty-free if you look for them. Some good ones when it comes to the health of your pup are Blue Buffalo and Canidae, at least from what I remember. Do your own research and find the best food for your baby. :)

If you have any other questions, the other amazing members here and I will be more than happy to answer them.

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Good luck Caspar and welcome to the Forum..

I really can't add much more to what's already been stated.. If you are totally against meat ( which your pup desparately needs) try suppliments that will give him the protein that will help him develop..

I see you're in India and am wondering if you can find a great vet/nutricianist there.

Keep us informed..

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I buy natural balance grain free puppy and he's never had a digestive problem from it :)

 

 

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hey ya people thanks again....i am so thankful to you guys for helping me so much at the most important life stage of caspar.

i am giving him cerelac and i looked out for blue buffalo as well as canidae for grain free kibble but there are no outlets that make it available here. I am from India Goa. I am giving him supplements suggested by the vet i.e vetoquinol health up pro and virbac ostopet. I have also started with raw carrot sticks for him to munch on. I had bathed him using bolfo shampoo that too was suggested by the vet and now i can see traces of dandruff on him it was his first shower since birth.

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Folks help help help help please. I will be feeding him some veggies today just to make him used to all types of diet. Shall i feed him raw or cooked vegetables and what shall be they. Please reply.

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Since finding a good kibble isn't easy, one option is you can put your pup on a raw diet. Start with chicken. At his age he needs 10% of his current weight in food daily. Ground chicken, chicken breast, wings, neck..Dogs can eat raw chicken bones but NEVER cooked. He should have approximately 10% bone content averaging out over the week. You will know if it's enough or too much by his poop. Too much, he will be straining, too little, he will have very runny poop. Just adjust accordingly. Stick to just chicken for 7-10 days. You can give an egg once a week if he is used to it. When he seems settled on chicken add another protein. Green tripe, rabbit, turkey, lamb are all good choices. Add some to the chicken, add a little more every day, removing some of the chicken. Once they are eating the second protein well, add another. Once he has gotten 3or 4different proteins and is tolerating them, you will need to add organ meat. They need about 10% total over the week as well. Liver, kidney, sweetbreads, testicle. Heart and Lung are fed as meat, not organ. Go very slow adding organ meat as it is very rich and usually end up with runny poo. My girl will only eat the organs if I dehydrate them in the oven. I also feed fish weekly for the excellent health benefits.

They can eat any meat source that is not carnivorous. So no wild boar.

There are alot of excellent resources online about raw feeding. If you are on facebook there is a great group called Raw feeding advice and support. They also have alot of resources on feeding your pup.

The amount he needs will adjust as he gets older. Mine is 9 months now and gets 4% of her weight, so approx 2.2lbs /day.

I buy most of my meat straight from the butchers and slaughter house.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/raw-feeding-advice-support/education-site-for-newbies/787391971300339

 

Good luck with little Caspar!

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Hey friends ill be visiting manchester in another 3 or 4 days so please if anyone can suggest some outlets where i can find and carry back good supplemets for my pup which will provide him the supplements required at this growth stage of his.
Please do not suggest any dog food as he will get used to them and it will be later difficult for me to find them here.
Thanks guys....