Boomer's Coat (UPDATED...BUMPS?)

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I just brought a second dobe into our home last Friday, sweet Boomer. He's 5 yrs old. I also have a 7 month old girl dobe, Frankie. Frankie has and always has had a beautiful silky coat. I get compliments on her constantly when we are out. Boomer on the other hand has less dense fur and not near as good looking. Kind of patchy and dull looking. He's a red. Frankie is black. Anyways, I started him on Salmon oil, and he's on Iams. Is there anything suggested to help out his coat? He also looks like he has sensitive, almost dry skin. He has his vet appt tomorrow, but wanted to check here. Thanks!

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OK, so Boomer's thyroid is normal. We've had him less than a month. Have another vet appt on weds to check out these bumps, and further investigate. He had them when I got him, but I figured it was from poor diet. They still here. His coat is much thicker and more shiny, but you can still notice bumps making ripples in fur.

-ingrown hairs? Don't think so...but not ruling it out. I don't find it necessary to brush him. Heard it's irritating with sensitive skin.
-groomer thought might be yeast infection? But the bumps aren't red. They are hard like little bb's under skin. Idk
-Allergies?
-bacterial?

Just curious if anyone else has had an experience like this?

I've have him on/taking/using

●all fish dry food and some cooked food with veggies
●brewers dried yeast
●probiotics
●flax seed
●occasional raw egg
●salmon oil
●antihistamine
●joint supplement
●topical ointment that helps with pain relief & bacterial/fungal skin conditions (sulfodenergy brand)
●hydrocortisone lotion, only used a couple of times
●we use an oatmeal soothing sensitive skin shampoo

Just took him tonite to get a mud bath at the groomer, has natural sea salts and some other good stuff. Groomer said vet recommends clients to them for it. So figured what the hell, we'll try it. He feels amazing and loved, loved, LOVE IT. So we'll see if he gets some relief.

They don't seem to itch. BUT sure look like they might. I'm just stumped!

Hoping after a couple of months we'll see some change, but I just hate it for him.

I'll upload some pics.

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a fresh raw egg cracked into my pups breakfast every now and then helps a great deal.

 

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Perfect! Heard about that, but never tried it. I'll give it a go. Thanks!

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My doberman has always had a sensitive stomach to grain based dog foods which I believe Iams was one of them so maybe switching to a grain-free dog food or to another dog food brand may help him bring shine to his coat? I've switched dog food brands a few times and can sometimes find noticible differences. Definitely check out dogfoodadvisor.com it's a site that rates different dog food brands. When I used to feed my dogs kibble it was a go to site for choosing dog food.  

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AAAGGHH!! What to feed??? Such a question.. and one we get at least once a week..

One of our favorite members.... Gunny...hit the nail on the head when he suggested to " Feed the best quality you can afford and one that agrees with your dog."

SPOT ON!!

We've fed Grain Free forever... it helped Sofia who has allergies and being a fawn tends to have a thinner coat than her cousins..plus there's just a lot of fillers in kibble that do nothing for them but giver them bigger poos.

There are supplements for softer silkier coats.. every time I tried...whether it was salmon oil or coconut oil.. BOTH my girls got sick from it..I would check with my vet before doing Anything.. And oh, BTW when you do switch over to a quality kibble.. do it gradually... start with a quarter of the  new added to 3/4 of the old.. do that for a couple of days.. then go half and half.. a few more days .. then a quarter of the old to 3/4 of the new kibble.. two or three more days.. then voila..

Goodluck with Boomer.. ( great name).. and hey.....let's see some pics!!

Katie

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Boomer's Coat has improved. Change of food, salmon oil, occasional raw egg, flax seed & allergy meds. It's thickened up tremendously, still nothing compared to my Frankie's silky black coat, but much improved!

Boomer has only been with us a short while but him and my 2 year old are best buds!!!

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Finally figured out how to get pics on here with my phone lol so now I might go bonkers with pics

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UPDATED: PICTURES OF BUMPS

And after really searching for ones that I could part the hair enough to see for pics, some are red and older ones have a scab. ??? Gahhhhh! The wet look is from the ointment I put on him.

Here you can see the bumps in the fur, towards his rump.

Does this look familiar to anyone???

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Geez, I'm new to this forum stuff. And I really suck at this posting images lol. This block was a double post of the one with the pictures...buh.

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Oh and it's only on his back, outside thighs/hams, shoulders and back part of his head. Not on his legs, face, or under side

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Wow. So just overnight since the mud bath at the groomer, I can tell an improvement. So that's good!

It looks a bit like a staph infection. Young Dobes are very prone to them.  Your vet should look at it and if it is staph, Dobes need 30 days of antibiotics

 

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I will bring that up to her. I have a whole list lol thank you! I hope it's an easy fix that would just require antibiotics! We will see on weds...

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Interesting.. the raised one looks like a mole we just had removed from Sofia's back just about the same place.. We would have left it alone but it was growing so off it came.. Yep.. let us know what the vet says..

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This looks like it may be an allergy. My allergy experience is with one of my cats who had very similar looking bumps. The thing with allergies is that it can be difficult to find the cause and is time consuming to rule things out. Unfortunately, one of the major allergy triggers for dogs and cats is grain, fish, and chicken because they are in most commercial foods and the allergy worsens over time. With my cat, I cut out grain and fish, which seemed to improve his allergies - he did end up getting an allergy shot, then went on to prednisone and also took an antihistamine. I managed it for awhile that way and tried to systematically cut other things out to finally find whether I could improve it more. Finally, I found the biggest contributing factor that has allowed me to cut back almost completely on the prednisone and antihistamine - plastic! Funny thing is when he was about 1 year old and I had been using plastic bowls he had gotten bumps like that on his chin and neck. The vet at the time told me it is a common allergy in pets and to change to ceramic or stainless steel bowls. Problem solved and it went away until he truned 5 years old or so - then a year later it finally dawned on me that maybe I should try a steel litter box instead of plastic as well as the limited ingredient diet. It has made a huge difference. It will be interesting to hear what your vet says (mine always thought the allergy presented like a flea allergy, which it wasn't because he has never had fleas). If the vet does think it looks like allergies, you may need to cut back on the list of things you are giving him and start with a process of elimination - the first thing you may want to try is switch to a food with a different protein that is limited to just one and go from there (remember, you have to stick to only that protein and no grain in treats too).

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How crazy! Plastic! That never would've crossed my mind. We use stainless steel bowls. AND the groomer and my vet both said (his first vet visit right after I got him) that it looked as though he had had fleas. But he didn't and hadn't. The only treats they get, which is minimal, is all natural, grain fee, gmo free, soy free, etc...I think they are cranberry/pumpkin bites or something. I picked up at marshall's/homegoods. They always seem to have neat little healthy dog snacks in there for cheap! I'm going to try and look up this all raw diet stuff and see how much success there is. I feel like that's a sure fire way to control any additives/extras. Reading labels stinks!!!! I just want him to feel and look good!

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I love Homegoods for their inexpensive pet stuff too! I have the dogs on grain-free diets because they have sensitive stomachs (luckily no skin allergies, yet...). It is a challenge finding reasonably priced, healthy grain-free treats. Mine love Wet Noses and Cloud Star grain-free flavors and they aren't too bad price-wise, especially if you buy them on chewy.com or petco's website often has them on sale. I know alot of people make their own treats at home but I haven't tried that myself.

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I'll look those up! Yeah, making dog treats is on my list but so was baby food making... my youngest is now 2 years old. Lol. Darn it.

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If you decide to go for raw please do lots of research as its great when done right but easy to do wrong, there are lots of helpful groups on facebook with friendly people. I feed raw so if you have any questions that I can answer I'm happy to, either post on here or drop me a dm :)

Just a cautionary note be careful not to overdo the salmon oil as it is toxic in excess.Coconut is safer :)

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Well, it's staph! Vet said it was something he got while with his other owner. Got our antibiotics and vet gave us some samples of shampoo and hot oil treatment to try too. So happy we figured it out. Said to keep doing what we are doing and hopefully after this run of antibiotics we will see a huge change. Yay! I'm picking up a bottle of wine to celebrate lol

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Glad to hear its something relatively simple.  Don't be surprised, however, if it takes more than one course of antibiotic, and I wouldn't bathe him too often, either (unless the vet said to).  

They'll "drive you to drink", won't they?

 

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Wow, the bumps are already going away! His back feels much more smooth. Yay!!!!!! My 4 year old gave him a check up today haha! Such a good sport!

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Oh, and the coconut oil is going well! Boomer wasn't sure about it at first, but now he gobbles it up

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I bathe them once a week, but Boomer has went a week and a half without one a time or two. Frankie gets an odor faster than he does. So she's sometimes twice a week. She has no dandruff or sensitive skin issues though. Her fur is alot more dense also...maybe that's why? But girlfriend can get a good dog smell funk goin' on. She's also a bit more active than him too.

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What a gem you have there (dog AND child)!  Love the pictures - Boomer reminds me of my Harrigan who I still miss.  

Once a week baths are much too often.  In general, Dobes are pretty clean and odor free - maybe something else is going on with Frankie.  

Mine get baths 4 times a year, tops, unless they've gotten into something really nasty.  Even mud will usually just dry up and fall or brush off.

I see you feed Boomer IAMS.  Is Frankie on that, too?  Its not the best food around, and that may be where her odor is coming from.  I know it takes alot to raise kids and have dogs, but if you could up the quality of their basic kibble, you might not have to suppliment quite so much.

IAMS used to be good quality, but not so much anymore.

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sensitive skin, bumps, itchys, and dry patches... I solved it after many months of food elimination.... best food for my 3 yr old Bella's coat and a life with much less itchies is Nutro Natural Choice for Sensitive Skin and stomach issues - Venison dry food. I tried everything out there and we are pleased with Bella's results.

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What great pictures! And such a happy ending too. Fitzmar FTW on that one. I'm definitely storing that little piece of staph knowledge away.

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Jax's vet had us get rid of his plastic & stainless bowls. The plastic was an allergan & the stainless created a static/friction causing rashes. She had us go to glass bowls. Problem solved.