Abby has a problem and no-one knows what

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Hi everyone, I need the communities experience for this.

Abby some months back started to yelp, as if in pain not fear in situations.

At first we thought it was a strain and rested her up, but she started to do it when taking treats, being bumped by her brother or startled.

I'm able to pat her down, poke prod and stretch joins to no discomfort.

She is generally lethargic, walks slightly hunch backed randomly but still plays chase and leaps landing heavily with no reaction.

We have been to the vet, who under my request gave her a steroid to assist with an allergy to scurvy weed I'm battling in my yard. She also tested some reflexes and range of motion. She advised an X-ray to further rule out pinched spinal discs but the treatment outcomes were the same if was or wasn't.. rest

After the injection and a good amount of rest we did have some improvement until today. After bounding down the four outside steps she turned around and started to yep in pain. This time right in front of me I said stay and investigated. She was holding her right pore off the ground, i felt for cramping but couldn't see unusually locked muscle. for the rest of the day when sitting her left pore rattles with not much weight on the ground.

I nursed her in the sun and noticed allot of muscle twitch in her right shoulder.

I started out thinking it was her vision or hearing disorientating her but we have ruled that out.

She has full range of motion with no complaints

I'm now starting to think its early wobblers or some kind of spasm/fit.

She is fully vaccinated, otherwise very healthy.

Yes, I know you are all going to say get a blood test and xray... I will but I need a direction to investigate.

Please contribute your experience and thoughts on this situation.

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You have just described what happened with our lex.  He is 11 now.  Years ago he was running and yelped, then slow for a few days. After rest, steroids and pain meds he was fine.  The vet then said early wobblers.  This last dec it happened again only worse.  This time he wouldn't potty and circled in his kennel outside with little yelps.  We babied him and then the next morning when he jumped off the bed was a literal scream!! And then complete paralyzed of his hind end :(. Vet did steroid injection and crate only.  It was the hardest thing ever!  After reluctance to do X-ray cause like you said, treatment is the same, we found a slipped disk causing pinched nerves.  We have held on and done everything other then surgery (he's to old) and he is pain free but still can't walk right and potty time is only with assistance and accidents.  

If I were you I would do a week if crate rest ASAP.  Yes I recommend an X-ray, but I'm far from an expert!  You have come to the right place for good advice and caring people :). Our dobie fam sends good energy and fast recovery!!

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I would certainly opt for an X-ray ! My golden was six when I had to let him go and that was the hardest thing ive ever had to do and that was a year ago. He started limping and would hunch his back like he was in sever pain. He was on pain medications but that didn't really help and that was from one doc who told us he had joint issues I didn't buy that cuz he was to young. Switched vet and they X-ray his chest and stomach found out he had a massive tumor and there was no way we could save him:( we had to say good bye to our beautiful Tucker dog but he wasn't in pain anymore and I thanked the doc for finding out what was hurting him so much. Still was the absolute hardest goodbye I've ever had to do. If I were you I'd do the X-ray and blood panel because of you catch whatever it is early you have a chance to remedy it now instead of it getting worse

 

 

 

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Just anecdotal. Sounds similar to an incident with June when he was about 8 months. The emergency vet said panosteitis and prescribed Tramadol. His normal vet was contacted and approved of the course of action. It came and went for a couple of weeks and We returned to the regular vet. She did standard pain/range of motion tests and still believed it to be pano. At my request they performed full hip, elbow, and spine x-Rays. Nothing irregular or of concern showed up, although when the images were sent to an off-site radiologist they did show very early signs of possible panosteitis. His vet prescribed deramaxx for use as needed and advised that it could be any number of things that would not show up on x-Rays and would require an MRI. I decided to wait on the MRI.

After not having any problems for a couple of months (and the vet telling me to continue deramaxx every other day) I contacted a family friend who is a vet at an animal hospital up north who told me to take him off of the deramaxx. She said that if it had been wobblers he would not have returned to normal and would continue getting worse. Juneau has not had any issues off of deramaxx for the past 7 months. She said that it could have been IVDD, pano, slipped disc, or just a fluke thing. 

Just my experience. If you get x-Rays do remember that a lot of things will not show up on them, so if the problem persists you may need to do an MRI or myelograph. Best of luck and keep us posted :)

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my toy poodle has calcified disc in his lower back . he to jumped and twisted wrong and the hard disc pinched onhis nerves making it painful to walk climb stairs or even go to the bathroom .after repeatede thinks it's something ly doing this and the vet always putting him on tremadol i searched for more natural ways to help him .i went to the local health food store and found  curamin which is a pain reliever  and anti inflamatory derived from tumeric and other natural essincial oils two capsles a day in his food and in three days he was walking outside by his self and a week later no more pain and has not had an epesode since it's great for people as well check with your vet if he thinks it's something he can use good luck keep us posted

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sorry for the mess up on my typing must have written over some words ???

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Thanks for everyones input, I had not thought of cancers or tumors.

I'm going to book in for blood test, today she shows no sign of yesterdays weakness or discomfort but still is lethargic compared to her brother.

I have taken her to the field today to lift her spirits, she has had a great day and a good nap.

I hope everything turns out ok

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Good to hear of happy days :). Give her lots of love from us!!

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Well NUTS!! I hate hearing about this.. There's nothing worse than trying to help your kid when he's in pain.. not knowing exactly where to start or how to aid.

I hope you find the source and a solution quickly.

Please let us know..

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@lady Kate, your so right!! It's worse with our four legged kids cause they can't speak :/I sat many of moments with le. Just speaking positive and happy things. 

I would do the x-rays and then look into chiropractic 

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Hi Andrew, 

So sorry to hear Dear Abby is not good, wishing that you can find the problem and source a recovery for her. It must be hard that Jeter can't play rough like always before.

 We have missed you around here, I imagine you have been busy parenting:) 

 

best from us in Los Angeles

PB an' me

PS I have heard about Curaphen, not Curamin, but they seem similar. I tried it and may try it or Curamin again.

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Thanks, yes little Alex is keeping us very busy!

Quick Vid here https://youtu.be/n_nrEz0_WAk

Here is Abby getting her nurse time in while Alex was doing some gardening.

No time for internet here :)

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THANK YOU for the beautiful photo:)

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After four weeks, we had our first walk, next day the poor girl is not doing well.

This is as straight as she can sit

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Poor girl!! Did u end up getting X-rays done?