10 yo Female with what looks like Wobblers

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Hi All,

 

My name is Rory, 

I live in a place called Broken Hill which is in Australia.

Unfortunatley I have a 10 yo female dobie that looks as though she has wobblers...she is having X-rays tomorrow but I'm not confident at all.

Main symptoms are front paws are folding under themselves and she falls down regularly, she has also has worn her nails on her front paws right down.

I was wondering what would be an honest prognosis for a dog her age if I get surgery. I will do anything for her money is not an issue. I just don't want to make wrong decision. Could steroid tablets be an option.

I lost my male Dobie on Boxing Day after he was bitten by a King Brown snake 5 days prior...he fought so hard but in the end we lost him we tried everything. I still regularly break down in tears just thinking about his last days and how he died alone a day after Christmas....I just wish I seen him one last time... :-(

Anyway any feedback on what I should do please tell me...I love her so much and seeing her like this is killing me.

 

Cheers Rory Algate

Hi Rory , I cannot answer your questions .. Just wanted to say how sorry I was for you loosing your dog at Christmas .... I hope the vets tomorrow will give you the info you need . Someone here will be able to help ime sure .... God bless you .... Love Paola and Mina x 

Ive had a little experience with it and observed treatment of other dogs. At 10 im not so sure that I would have surgery on my personal dogs for it. I had one female that within a day was totally paralyzed with it. Because of her age 10 we decided against traditional methods of surgery. Instead we did acupuncture and prednisone treatment. She was literally down for a month and very hard to care for because she couldn't walk at all. Just when I thought she wasn't going to pull through it and I was making calls to the vet to have him come to the home and put her down, she started improving. Within a month she was pretty much back to her normal self.

Her daughter actually around the age of 11 went through something similar they did the same treatment and she made a little bit of recovery but they ended up putting her to sleep.

My female I have right now not of the same bloodlines at age 9 went through some neck/back issues and she was screaming in pain not able to walk. The vet I used for her did laser acupuncture, prednisone, pain pills. She had 3 treatments with the laser and was a brand new dog.

There are neck stabilizers you can use, I would definitely try the prednisone and if you have access to someone that does acupuncture than give it a try. The x-rays will tell you a little about what you are dealing with it may be a ruptured or herniated disk.

Keep us updated, best of luck to you.

Cheers all thanks for ur advice and kind words....I love my Dobies so much....I will keep u all informed of outcomes and progress.

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Hi Rory~~ What a very sad way to welcome you to this wonderful Forum. I have no experience with Wobblers.. actually we've been extremely fortunate with our Sofia, given that she's a rescue and we of course have no health history.

I can only offer my support and prayers during this difficult time. Please stay in touch and let us all know how your girl does

Cheers

Well today post X-rays it has confirmed to discs are touching....but without MRI can't confirm exact cause.

 

So looks like a trip to the city to see specialist....I'm just so guttered I lost my best friend near on 6 mths to the day of this diagnosis.

I love them so much....we spent $5000 trying to save my boy....I would have paid 10 times that if I could have changed the out come, and it will be the same with my little girl.

Dobies why are they so easy to fall in love with....I know they are the best mate u could ever ask for.

 

I will keep all updated of any changes.

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Oh I am so sorry that you are having this happen; I hope the specialist can offer some hope and advice; keep us updated and know I am here sending love and hugs from me and Uncle Ben the rottie!!!

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Hello,

 

So sorry about your girl. I had to put down my Stella (nearly 9) due to an acute case of Wobblers this February.

Unfortunately, once the dogs paws fold under, the surgeon here in the States told me surgery must be done within 24 hours or the nerves are permanently damaged. Sounds like you girl has had that condition for awhile as you said her front toenails are substantially worn down.

Stella started showing instability signs a year ago. We did acupuncture, prednisone, and laser therapy. It kept her going for a year but in February, her back legs became paralyzed and all the non-surgery methods could not bring her legs back. Once she started losing control of her bladder and bowels I had to make the decision to let her go with dignity even though it broke my heart.


Have you tried acupuncture or laser therapy? Laser therapy is relatively new here in Washington State but acupuncture is a good start.

Hi Bluedog,

l'm sorry for your loss of Stella....so heart breaking.

I have a horrible feeling I may have to do the same thing for my Chloe.

I have only ever put down one of my pets ( my cat Brighty RIP XXX ) and that was truly horrible.

I'am dreading going to specialist as I believe the outcome is not going to be good.

I don't want to give up on her and I don't want her to suffer ether...I'm going to lose my 2 babies within 8mths....I can't believe this... :-(

 

Anyway I will wait for specialist for treatment but they have already said due to her age medication maybe the best option.

 

thanks all for your responses.

PS. Here is a link to a tribute to my best mate Wilson

 

http://youtu.be/czAKN1I1dPc

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Oh my I sit here in tears, what a beautiful tribute to such a great dog!!!! You can see the devotion in his eyes...such love.....so hard to lose such a true love.....How's the kitty doing without his bud??

Know Ben and I send hugs to all.....Beautiful gravesite too......

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Beautiful tribute, had me in tears at the end.

I have three cats and they all miss him....he was such a caring member of our family....I cry every time I watch it.....I have tears just writing about him now.

 

Thanks for ur comments about him....he was everything to me.

 

i just hope I don't lose my girl.... :-(

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Here's hoping and praying you don't lose her, sending her lots of positive energy and love, hugs from uncle ben the rottie!!!

THX MATE...!

I don't know if they have vets there that can do gold bead implants - it is a fairly successful non-invasive alternative to surgery.  Google it to learn more.

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Aussie Doberman,


Lovely tribute to Wilson. He was obviously very much loved and loved his humans. Be cautious on the gold bead implants. Many veterinarians have banned it in the U.S. as many believe it does not contribute to any healing or prevention.

Try the meds and hydritherapy (water walking) if leg muscles are weak. Worked for awhile with Stella and gave me a few more years with her.


Linda

Sadly I have arrived home from 6 weeks work and my baby girl is not good.

 

Due to her age and the instability of her vertebrae surgery was not an option.

 

Today I had to hold her up while she urinated....I looked in to her eyes and I felt a knot in my stomach and tears swelled in my eyes.

 

We plan to have vet come to house on Saturday to put her at rest.

 

Am I making the right decision....she still wags her tail, eats well but she falls over and now struggles to stand back up...I want what's best for her???

All your thoughts are valued!!!

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OH MY!!!! I have been in this situation SO MANY times, too many to count, it is so hard, but it seems a bit kinder when the animal in question looks you in the eye and says "you know I love you and if you want me to I will stay for you, but if you can make it without me I would like to go now" when you get "the look" you know, so ask yourself if she gave you THAT look or if it was a look of frustration, cause I am sure you don't mind helping her out with potty time and picking her up when she falls, only you will know what her look meant. I had a whippet that began falling over at age of 5 and I never failed to help my little buddy stand back up, and he lived to be 13 so for 8 years I cared for him like you are her except he could potty alone......it's very hard when they are eating and behaving well, but having such issues.

Think back and decide what her "look" meant......and then ask your heart what's right......

If you choose saturday know that my heart will be with her and you as she passes.....I know I will be posting Pepe's passing shortly and it will be like the first time I will have had to say goodbye but he will probably be more like the 30th one I have had to say good bye too.....just know no amount of time or preparing will take the pain away......each goodbye is like the first hang in there and give her a hug from me and Ben

:-(

 

ohhhh deep down I know the look....after losing my boy on Boxing Day...this is such a horrible decision.

 

I go back to work in 12 days so I will spend everyday with her...and I will let her go the day before I leave.

 

Thank u for u thoughts...!

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Oh I know it's so horrible to say goodbye, do let us know when she crosses over and we are all here for you I think I can speak for the group when I say that.....don't hesitate to come in and talk about your loss......it helped me a great deal almost two years ago when my collie passed....this group is very supportive and i don't think there are many on here who have not gone through this and many in just the past few months so you are not alone......

Thank you all so much!!!

I will definitely post when I have let her go.

 

Many thanks from myself and Chloe!

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Dear Aussie Doberman,


I feel your heart break believe me. Stella has been gone since February and I miss her every day she was such a force of nature and my dear love. You will know when it is time.

I helped Stella potty every day for a week and supported her popo with a sling so she would not tip over. In the end when she lost control of her bowels and bladder, I knew it was time so she would go with dignity and grace.

She accepted my decision with such love and trust it still tears me up thinking how she left it up to me with acceptance at the end to let her go....I am crying now just writing this as it is still so fresh in my mind.

Remember, you had 10 wonderful years with her and knows she is loved. Hold her when you let her go and whisper that you love and adore her and will never forget her...she will go in peace.

 

Lots of hugs and love to you my friend,


Stella's Mama

Thank you so much.....I write here today with a broken heart....today at 1230pm Australia time I put my little girl to rest.

 

The pain I felt looking into her eyes as she passed.....was simply shattering!

again I thank you all as I know 99% of Dobie owners go through this.....as we know we never forget our babies.

Hopefully she is now running around with Wilson like they used too.

 

RIP MY BABY....IM SO BLOODY SORRY I HAD TO DO THIS!

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Dear Rory,

My heartfelt condolences for the loss of your Dober-girl. Dont be to sorry about letting her go, you know she didnt deserve to suffer.

I was hoping against hope that she would rally, and your next post would not be this.

 Our hearts are with you and your family.

Rest assured Chloe is in the Happy Hunting Grounds with Wilson having fun while watching the Rainbow Bridge for your arrival to be together again,

BIG HUGS from Julia in California.

Thank you....I know she needed to go!

 

She enjoyed a large McDonalds cheese burger meal....before the vet arrived at home!!!

Again many thanks for everyone's advice and support!

 

LOTSA LOVE FROM ME & CHLOE xxx

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We know what you're going through - we had to euthanize our Harrigan on the 21st of April.  He suffered from chronic liver disease; he'd collapsed the night before and was no longer able to even sit up.  He was confused and scared and was never going to get better.  He died in my arms in our bedroom.  I still miss him every day.  Our hearts go out to you, but its a responsibility we take on when we love an animal.  Don't be sorry or blame yourself - it's an act of pure love and compassion to end another being's suffering and take it on yourself.

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Rory,

 I am so broken up again, for you and all our friends who know this may pass to them also. We are lucky to have each other here on GD I also just read the whole thread and watched the beautiful Wilson tribute.

Reminds me of our dear Kenya the Ridgeback, the African Queen, a true old soul, whose last meal was a bowl of ice cream. She had been lying with her neck ( terrible tumors, huge surgeries) on the floor for hours and days. But when her Mommie asked her if she wanted ice cream, she lifted her snout and arched her neck to slurp it down out of a pretty dish.

I cried for a week when my Dolly died. I didnt get there in time, but she waited for my ex b/f to come back from digging her grave in a very special spot. We took her there / miles and miles/ night time/ together. Its a beautiful spot to visit and think of both of them. He died 1 year later to the day, at 37.

Fully grieving and honoring your pets is so neccessary/ and the memories will always be a part of your heart.

Julia

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Oh I am so sorry!!!! I know you know deep down you did what you had to do, but it's sooooo sooooo hard, I am dreading the day we say the same with Ben or Pepe; so many losses recently.....and of course she is running and pain free today.  Again words are not sufficient to explain how much I understand the pain, just know I do.....

Keep us posted on how you are doing........tal and Ben

Thank you all so very very much!!!

Although I am heart broken ur words are so comforting....they truly are!

 

Thank you all.

 

LOTSA LOVE FROM BROKEN HILL AUSTRALIA!!!

 

RIP CHLOE I MISS U WITH ALL MY HEART! Xoxox

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I am so so sorry to read this.  I am sitting here laughing and crying at the same time thanks to the "last McDonalds"....  got a very odd look from Jess!  heh.

 

You know you did the right thing, she didn't deserve to suffer any more.  You loved her and gave her a long and wonderful life.  I am sure eventually you will find a new companion to fill the hole in your life, but she will be waiting for you at the Rainbow Bridge.

Haha......she really loved her McDonalds....especially the fries.

 

Even on her worst days she would pull here self up to eat her McDonalds.

 

I finished building here grave today....it looks awesome.....I cried the whole time making it but its a great tribute to my baby.

 

again thank you too all.

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These types of jobs also help with the grieving process you'll have to post her resting place pics later when you are up to and feel like sharing.....hang in there....

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What you did for your girl was absolutley the bravest, kindest and most filled -with- love- thing you could have done.. I know how difficult it is right now, and I only hope that you can get some peace with this pain in knowing you were the best dang mom in the entire world.. and you gave her the life some dogs can never even dream about.

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Since I can't send you this in person I am sending it to you via internet:

XXX THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH XXX

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Grief is a hard journey, it does seem to help to be able to talk to others who know the pain, and to be able to talk about your loved one and the fun things you did and so on helps to bring the joy of their life back into focus instead of the loss.....

Hi All,

 

i just finish a quick tribute to my baby girl...I miss her so much and I still miss my best mate Wilson like he passed this morning.

Again thank u all.

 

http://youtu.be/DZmHcrPrT5k

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Oh my I cried my eyes out, I still can't stop, what a beautiful tribute and her grave is just wonderful!!! She was such a sweet girl you can see it in her pics just how loving she was.....and Wilson's grave is beautiful also, you are doing such a wonderful tribute to them both, I am so sorry for your pain I know it so well, just know that

As u all know the pain is stomach turning....I love all my animals as if humans.....wait they are better then humans they love unconditionally.

 

They are all my babies....I just tell everyone please, please spend as much time with them as you can....PLEASE!!!

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what a beautiful tribute

so sad for you

sweet babies Wilson & Chloe feel no pain

they are in all our hearts and dear Rory and family too

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Well thank you all.

 

Attached is my final goodbye to my babies!

 

http://youtu.be/R5wVINSmBWE

 

Hopefully my future posts in other areas are happy ones.

 

Thanks again for all you help!

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it says the video is unavailable??? thought you might want to know......

Thx mate....must have copied and pasted wrong....

 


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It worked this time and I sit here just balling my eyes out, what a great video it appears there are more pics from the last one, I loved it.....they looked like such precious souls and so loving.....the adoration in their eyes is just so heartwarming and heartbreaking all at once if that makes sense....I know my time with my guys is arriving sooner than I want and I will be remembering your tribute and hope I can do one that does them justice......your monuments to them are beautiful.....well done.....I know they know and love you for it.....