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I was looking on Kijiji to see what kind of prices people are selling Dobermans for - we got our puppy for $1800 and he's perfect, but I see some people are selling dober puppies for $800 ?? Anyways, I also saw this 


"My boyfriend and I are looking for a girl purebred Doberman puppy. We are very loving family. We dont want to pay a lot of money, Please come with most shots and deworming and claws an ears done. Please email

People who are actually willing to sell may email, for those who try give me advise or have a problem with the price please dont email me. Thank you :)"
 

We don't want to pay a lot of money

We don't want to pay a lot of money

Well what the heck are you expecting??

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I'm thinking the two phrases "we dont want to pay a lot of money" AND "Please come with most shots and deworming and claws an ears done"  sort of cancel each other out.  Red flag here of people that totally do NOT have a clue.

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I dont know where these people live, but around here (Northwest Ohio) getting the ears done alone can be between $400-$600. Breeders wont just eat the cost to sell you a puppy...

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I'm thinking these people need to do their research, I sent her an email asking her exactly what she was looking for. I was polite. She never responded though, and according to her paragraph about the dog she is looking for - she probably get's a lot of replies stating how delusional she is to think she can get a "cheap" Doberman.

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Kijiji - IMHO is not a good place to look for a puppy.  They have lots of people mix matching breeds and advertising on there for their designer dogs and expecting 1500.00 - 2000.00 for them.  Because they bred two purbreds together of different breeds they expect people to pay top dollar.  I have choice words to say, but am censoring.  Most of these "Designer dogs" will end up in what most of us refer to as "The Pound".

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Can't afford the price.....=..... Can't afford proper vet care!

 Wants most of the shots done too, worming, & ears cropped!  Hope she's not from Canada, because I find the vet care / procedures in the U.S. reasonable compared to here!  It just cost me over $200 to find out why Daymian was licking his right rear foot so often.  Then add meds to that.

 If I had desperate need to place my dog, these people don't even make my list

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there are some wonderful dogs to be rescued..  that is what i am going to do after August and I am in California.. I am researching and talk to some places.. I had to stop looking for awhile there were so many i felt sad for them .. I am 71 and it has been 20 years since  I had my dobies..  

I would like advice on what age should i be looking for.. I know it depends on thd dobe too..

I know I can not do the puppy thing as much as I like to.. one rescue has puppies.. I dont even want to look at them.. I dont want my husband to either lol..

I will have to get a female being my toy poo is male.  

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A lot of people are just ignorent about what it takes to raise a Doberman puppy - the RIGHT way.  They don't understand why in a normal sized litter with a normal delivery, each puppy still costs me over $1000 without even considering the cost of having the bitch as a pet in my home (everyday costs) the cost to show them, and lets not forget my time raising a litter. Heck if I had to count my time to raise a litter - even just at minimun wage, they would cost a frigging fortune - LOL!!  Dobermans are expensive AND time consuming to raise correctly..... so when you look at all those ads for Doberman puppies at $600-$800 (uncropped of course) you can be sure that they were not raised well and the parents were not fully health tested. The breeder cut corners.... but heck, they are just raising PETS.... and apparently some people feel that they don't deserve a dog that meets the breed standards and that was carefully bred and raised by a true guardian of the breed.  I will be the first to admit that the breed is not a healthy one, but a good breeder is at least doing all the health testing to make sure that the parents are healthy at the time of the breeding - and standing behind their dogs. 

Until the general puppy buying public is aware of what is behind a $600 puppy and what is behind a well bred $2000 puppy from a reputable breeder, puppies will continue to suffer the consequences. Some of them will go to great homes - but so many of them won't. They will suffer the effects of poor breeding in health or temperament, and they will suffer the effects of a breeder who only cared about the money paid for them and not who they were selling to. 

Some people will say that if reputable breeders produced more puppies, there would be fewer bybers - and while I know that finding a good breeder takes time and patience, I also know that many of the people who want a puppy would never pass a good breeders standards for a good home.  Some people should not even have a hamster.... but as long as there are people out there pumping out cheap puppies for cash and no questions, the cycle of dog abuse will continue.

Others say you should have to pass a test to get a puppy.... heck, you can have a human baby without any test or class requirements...... I think you should have to take a class and take a test for both!  As always, JMHO.

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I had to look on Kijiji too.  I found 2 similar ads wanting Doberman puppies in the Kitchener / Waterloo area and Toronto area.  However more disturbing to me was the amount of people selling or giving them away for next to nothing.  Many  mentioning that they are unaltered.  Don't these people realize when they say unaltered they are attracting back yard breeders &  puppy millers?  Is that really where you want your pet to end up?  If you must rehome, use a rescue or humane society.  The dog will be placed now surgically altered,  as pet quality, instead of potential breeding stock to a puppy mill or BYB'r.

Another ad was in the Belle River / Windsor Ontario area. A gentleman's beloved red registered  Doberman female was stolen while pregnant.  She would have had a litter by now.  I feel for him.  But a part of me wonders if he too is a back yard breeder. 

Fitz....I think you should have said "goldfish".  They rank a bit lower on them chain than hamster.  True too for humans reproducing.  We could start a whole new thread on that!

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Good idea lol  I said a mouse but.. I am convinced as i said on another thread.  I had some poodles with some problems.. I loved them into old age. but Levi came from a great breeder and so far only thing the breeder did to him because she was going to keep him for show.. she spoiled him then I rottened him.  He was going over size for show so I got him from my friend ..    enough said by me who knows not too much about breeding.. I do know the responsibility of getting any dog and taking good care of it.

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Bet