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I did enjoy. Actually, I thought all 12 were great. For those who are not watchers of the Westminster, it is by invitation only. They send out invitations to the top dogs of each breed in that year. Also for those who have never seen one, between 7 and 8 minutes of the video you get to see a Fawn (Isabella) Doberman. A very good looking one as well. They are the rarest of the four colors and I was privileged to have one 20 years ago.

Thank you for sharing that with us. It was good to see a fawn again.

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That was a good one. When I was growing up in the 50's, I never saw a Doberman that wasn't black and rust. When I got Windy in 1982 I bought a book that had a color photo of a black and a red on the cover. I was taken by the red and wanted one. So two years later I got Hans. Since then I have had 5 more including now Red and Princess. The only fawns I have ever seen in person was a dam and sire and 8 puppies. One female puppy went home with me. I have only seen them in photographs since and the only video the one you posted.

Yes, I am aware of the extreme uphill battle they have to overcome to finish much less do well in the ring. In fact, any color other than black I understand is at a disadvantage.

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Yes, I am aware of the extreme uphill battle they have to overcome to finish much less do well in the ring. In fact, any color other than black I understand is at a disadvantage.

Actually the reds are right up their with the blacks. It's just the blues and fawns that seem to have an incredibly hard time finishing. It will take them 3times as long to finish. In fact I know several people that the judge has commented to them while showing to bad they weren't black,  I honestly can't believe that the judges can't put the color issue behind them and look at the structure of the dog. 

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rgreen4 wrote:

For those who are not watchers of the Westminster, it is by invitation only. They send out invitations to the top dogs of each breed in that year. 

Actually, you are not quite right.  While the top 5 of each breed are invited, entry is open to any AKC champion dog that can reach the show secretary in time.  The limit is reached very quickly.   

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You mean the announcers have been wrong all these years? Well, I'm 0 for 2 now.

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rnddobermans wrote:

I thought it would be fun to include the link for the 2009 Westminster breed judging video of the Doberman class. Most people are familiar with this show that is held in New York every year. What they show on TV is the group judging some people don't realize that to go to the groups you have to win a best of breed, then all winners for example of the working group will come together to be judged in that class. This video shows some of the top winning dogs and some of the best handlers in Dobermans. You will see how they are not only stacked as was asked in a previous question but the free stacking that are breed is so good at. Here is the link http://video.westminsterkennelclub.org/player/?id=1007841 ENJOY! :D

Great Video...!

Thank you...

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Really good video, however I wished it was just a little slower.  I watched it twice--once to see the dogs stack themselves and see who the winner was and then watched it again and stopped it several times and played it over --just a few parts--to watch how the handler handled the winning dobe.  I had to keep watching it over because I kept forgetting to watch the handler and noticed the dog more.  And that is a good handler.  And I was trying to watch her very closely to see her techniques.

I guess the better the handler is--the less you take notice of them.  I believe that is as should be, thus showing the dog to its maximum potential.  Am I wrong?

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