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hello im new to the site forum and have read alot of interesting stories...well bruno is 1 year old this month and a handfull..i got him 2 months ago the owners couldnt control him and he spent all his time in his crate. where to start? he was never in a truck for a ride, so this was crazy at first he was scarred!! also they feed him table scraps and popsicles as treats!! that stopped now on dog food heartworm meds and flea pills ,taking him for walks is a new experence, he walks right to left and trips me on occassion,cant get him to walk straight so ive shortened the leash for better control.oh yea he chewed 2 harness collars and 1 leash... anyway he listens on a sreaming comand and cares not much for anything but investigating the outside world and has and endless supply of energy, brings me to the couch were he sits directly in front of me waiting for any sudden movement in thoughts of a petting.new idea i put him on a line outside to give me 1/2 hour to myself but find he digs holes eats the firewood not just chews eats then whines til i let him in. i walk him every morning at 6am 2 to 4 miles and im home all the time does he sleep?hes allowing me 3 to 4 hours a night. i keep him in a crate at night and when hes bad sorry this is bad right? but its were he runs and i know nothing will be destroyed if i walk outside for 10mins..he likes to play rough ive bleed already hell bite your arm or hand in play but his teeeth are soooo sharp. thanks for the rant any thoughts?

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I fostered a rescue girl a few years ago that was about 10 months old, and she was similar to what you describe.  This is what happens when people get dogs and then don't bother to train them or socialize them, etc.  You end up with a full grown dog with a completely immature brain.  The brain is still all puppy but now they've got a big, strong body (and teeth!).  One of the reasons that rescues get so many dogs about this age being surrendered.  It's not their fault.  It's the fault of those who neglected them in their first year. 

Essentially, you have to start just as you would with a brand new puppy.  I would strongly suggest that you get him and you enrolled into an obedience class where you can learn how to train him. 

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Guitar guy - I do have one request. Don't treat the forum as a texting session, please break up your thoughts into paragragphs, and put spaces between your sentences. I think we have some work to do.

First, until you get control of him, don't play rough with him. As a guy I know what fun it is to play rough with a large dog, but until you get the idea through to him that you are the Alpha (Lead Male) your play undoes all of your training to this point. This does not mean you can't pet him and love him, as you in fact should. He needs to know not only are you in charge, but you dearly love him. There will be some bonding that has to be done.

When he puts his mouth on you, yelp in pain. (Even if he just barely touches you) and then give him a a two finger pop on the nose with your first and index fingers while saying no. The pop on the nose won't hurt, it just gets his attention. It's how mamma disciplines her pups.

When he sits in front of you and looks at you he is wanting one of four things. 1) Outside 2) Food 3) Water 4) Attention. Assuming the water bowl has water, and the first two have been recently taken care of, scratch him beneath the chin and between the ears. They love that because it's an area they can't get to.

The walking is going to take a little time and effort. The short leash works well, I usually have the lead in my right hand and choke up on the leash with my left. This prevents them from getting too far ahead and crossing in front. He may pull the lead out of your left hand on occasion, and if he does, you should still have control with the loop around your right wrist and hand. At that point, just stop. When he realizes you have stopped, he will look at you. At that point go back the other way. This puts him behind you and you back in control.

Watch Dog Wisperer with Cesar Milan on National Geographic Channel and It's Me or The Dog with Victoria Stilwell on Animal Planet. Both are good and you will pick up tidbits here and there.

Walking him as much as you do is good because a tired dog is a happy dog. A few months from now you will be amazed at the difference it makes. You will be rewarded with a loving and obedient dog. My avatar is from a photo of my first Doberman, a female named Windy whom I got at the age of 4 months in a situation similar to you, except she was only 4 months old. If I had the tools then that you have now, it would have been an easier time, but she was truly a wonderful dog. By the way - I got her in 1982, and I have had at least one Dobie ever since. I now have two.

The crate is a good idea, but wear him out a bit in the evening before you put him to bed. You'll both get more sleep. I crate mine overnight and when I'm gone during the day. Princess (red female) still gets into a lot of stuff as she's only 18 months old. Red (red male) who is 7 years old is more settled and I can trust him to a good extent if I'm outside, but when I come back in I usually find him curled up in his crate (dogs are accustomed to dens by nature).

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Welcome to the forum!
They give the best advise here in a helping manner!

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As far as night time goes...when I get a new dog or puppy. I just don't answer the midnight call, NO matter what!! Never took any of them very long to learn the routine. 10 o'clock bed time ... 7-8 o'clock getup time. Now that everyone is crate trained, night time trained, if one does call out I know it has a real NEED!!! And yes I do check on them but they are usually sick but not always. LOL sometimes you just gotta go!!

Anyways this is how I do it, others here do differently...hope this helps.

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thanks for the pointers,happy holidays

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YOu are welcome. I hope it helped. Give it some time it will work for you!