Ack! Sleeping Issues Revisited

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Xander is currently 7 1/2 months old.  He's crate trained and housebroken (no accidents in the house for several months).  He is trained to ring a bell when he wants to go outside, and he is consistent with this habit.

There is, unfortunately, another habit that he's consistent with and it's the reason I'm writing this post today.  The little stinker WILL NOT sleep through the night!  There was a brief period when we'd put him in his crate at 10:30 and let him out at 7:30 the next morning to get up and go potty.  Note I said "brief."  Now, his schedule is to hang with the family until it's bedtime at 10:30, at which time we let him out to do his business and then he comes in and goes right into his crate then my husband and I go to bed upstairs.

Invariably, he will whine and shake his crate 3:30 or 4:00.  If my husband or I don't get up for him, the whining gets louder.  We made the mistake of ignoring him one night only to wake and find he'd had diarrhea in his crate.  Shame on us.  So, for fear it may happen again, we get up with him at 3:30 to let him out.  He will go outside, pee, sniff around, poop, and then come inside and go back to bed (occasionally attempting to go downstairs to get on the couch instead).  He then settles in and sleeps until morning.

He sleeps, but I don't.  It's so frustrating to not be getting a full night's sleep....

So, I'm wondering, is this normal behavior for a Doberteen?  Shouldn't he be able to go all night at this point?

We take his food away from him at 8:00 p.m., and we either walk him, or play with him in the evening to wear him out.  One would think he could last until morning to do his business in the yard...

Is there a cure for this?  Do I have 8 hours of sleep on the horizon?  (I'd even settle for 7).

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Wow.. poor you.. Must be exhausting.. Hmm have you tried feeding him a little earlier say a late lunch..? So his system changes a little?
Or what about a doggie door so he can let himself in and out whenever he wants to.
Have never crated our DoberDiva, Sofia. She too will sometimes wake up at 3:30 or 4, and check out the house... come upstairs for a scritch ( Dabble's word and I've stolen it) then go back to bed on "her" couch. Once we got up with her, got dressed, slipper ed, robed and mufflered.. only to have her hop on the bed once we were up.
Early this morning ( 4:00) a coyote came to call and she almost shattered the windows with her bark. He ran, she went back to sleep. I too have been awake since then. yawn.. let's take a nap.

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Definitely a nap is in order!! 

A friend suggested that maybe Xander is manipulating us with his schedule.  He whines because he wants to be with the family rather than in his crate.  He could also be challenging dominance...

Either way, we'll try changing his feeding schedule and see if that helps.

And, then, there's always the "ignore" option and hope for the best the next morning (hoping there are no surprises in his crate).  Maybe he'll get the message that night time is sleeping time...

I'm off for that nap now... Nite!

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Ohh nothing worse than not getting enough sleep. ??? I tend to give Q his evening meal around 5-6pm and he tends to go to his crate around 8pm. If im working and get home at midnight the last thing i want is for Q to be awake at the crack of dawn with the birds so I cover his crate with some navy blue linen cloth i have. Result.. he sleeps until 8am. The crate door isnt locked so he can come out if he chooses :) but he will generally sleep through the night.

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It really is so much more difficult to trouble shoot an issue like this for an animal than it is a human. If we were talking about a person, I would tell you to get some CPAP supplies and be on your way. For a dog, it's trickier.

 

And yes, cheers to naps for all!

Oh that's awful. I hate being woke up in the middle of the night. My boy just turned 7mo old and he has slept through the night pretty much since he was 8 weeks old thankfully. I think I would try feeding earlier as others have suggested and limit water intake after a certain time. If that doesn't work try ignoring him again, maybe it was just that one time her REALLY had to go. Now it may be just a habbit.

I have the opposite problem though. My 6yr old female has been waking us up every morning at 5am. I'm tired of getting up so darn early everyday of the week. I've never had to set an alarm clock because we have her. It all started that she was allowed to get on the bed and cuddle when the alarm went off, but now she pushes the actual time by 1/2 hr. So instead of getting up at 5:30 for work it is now 5. She happens to be the most annoying alarm clock there is lol. She will try getting on the bed, I tell her "get off, get in your bed" she jumps off. 3 min later she does the same thing. I'm bound and determined that she isn't getting up there until I say she can so it goes on and on, with whining inbetween the jumping on the bed. If I put her in a crate she whines so loud as soon as it is 5 am that it's the same. Dogs, you cant live with them and you cant live without them lol.

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How interesting all this is.... Sofia has started coming upstairs early ( five-ish)  she will stare at me until I sense her presence then do the bowing, snuffling. "I have to go potty" routine. Downstairs we go and she'll hop into her bed and shut her eyes and grin..

" Gotcha!".....again... 

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Sorry - I had to laugh at that. Read Farley Mowat's book about the canine sense of humor and you will know our Dobies come by that very honestly. It's in their genes.

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Maybe try benadryl for to help him sleep. Hope things are better. Best lessons are by leaned by experience! If he poops his crate he sleep in it till morning and a few baths outside with the water hose will remedy that midnight run!

 

best of Luck!

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OMG. I so know what you are going through. Not only is my 14 mo old, Diva doing that but our older one, Nigel (2 or 3 so the vet seems to think) has been doing the same lately.  But they are not only getting up once durning the night, in the last week it has been 2 or 3 times a night.  They go out and check things out, don't always go pee, and then either come in or they want to stay out a while and then come back in.  I have been wondering if they are getting cold in the house and want to go out to warm up?  Could that be it?  Or are they just playing me?  We moved into this new home about 3 months ago and it has a chainlink fence vs. privacy fence we had before.  Could it be there is too much action outside for them to want to stay in all night?  UGH I know the feeling of waking too early.  I hate on the weekend when Diva wakes me at 6:00 am and it's my day to sleep in!