5 Month old puppy training

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My 5 month old male puppy just completed basic puppy training. He doing well but I do not really know what is my next step. Can somebody recommend good trainer in my area (Philadelphia or South / Central Jersey) What do you think about "Bord & Train" approach?

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My 5 month old male puppy just completed basic puppy training. He doing well but I do not really know what is my next step. Can somebody recommend good trainer in my area (Philadelphia or South / Central Jersey) What do you think about "Bord & Train" approach?

Congratulations on the completion of your basic puppy training! Usually in training classes they have a series of classes designed to flow from one to the next all the way into competition obedience. Does the place you took your puppy have additional classes available?

I haven't heard of the "Bord & Train" method. Are you referring to boarding your dog for training, or is there a new method that is being labeled as "Bord & Train"? If it is a new method then I would like to hear a little more about it. Is there a website or something that you got the info off of?

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Yes, PatsMart offer series of classes but I'm not really like this place and looking something more professional.

I'm sorry for spelling. You are right, I'm referring to boarding my dog for training. What do you thing about this idea?

Petsmart is probably fine to pick up the basic information but to go on and do the training correctly you will need to find a different training facility.

As far as boarding and training I do not suggest it at all. Several reasons the biggest is, Almost anyone can take a dog and  train it where it is doing GREAT and totally trained only to give it back to the owner and the owner can not make the dog mind in the same way. There is a certain amount of respect that is taught while training your own dog that can't be duplicated if someone else does the training. On top of that there is a certain amount of pride that is felt from an owner that has successfully trained there own dog. Training your own dog doesn't mean you read a book and try it that way either. The best thing to do is find a good training facility in your area and take group and private classes.

While my dogs are all very well trained and compete in all kinds of different things, they do not listen to my husband or children the same way they do me. The reason is I've been the one teaching them, consistent with what I expect and the commands I use. While my husband for example may use the word Down to mean a couple different things either get down off of something or lay down and he uses them intermittently at the same time confusing the dog. Although they eventually do  mind because they love to please, this doesn't happen with me and they respect that more and are consistant with all they do. When I say down it means lay down and because I do competition obedience with them we actually have 2 types of lay down. The first down means to drop immediately down into what is know as a sphinx position while lay down is to lay down with your hip rolled unto the ground (usually used when we do the long competition down) When I want my dogs to get off of something wether that may be the couch,bed or myself I use the word Off. So the whole reason for sharing this long story is to encourage you to train your own dogs done correctly they will respect and mind you better then if you send them off somewhere to be trained. You will enjoy them much better and it provides some great bonding between owner and dog. Good luck and keep us updated with your training.

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Thank you so much for all your explanation and I totally agree with you. Another reason why I do not want to send them off, because I will simple miss them. But, I back to my dilemma: where I can find good trainer / good classes

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Thank you so much for all your explanation and I totally agree with you. Another reason why I do not want to send them off, because I will simple miss them. But, I back to my dilemma: where I can find good trainer / good classes

It is hard to recommend a trainer from across the US. What I would do is look up dog training. In order to stay away from harsh corrections which are not needed and OLD methods of training dogs I would only check out training clubs. Try and stay away from private trainers unless someone that is reputable can refer you to a GOOD one. The reason for the club situation is the club generally has to agree on training methods to be used and most modern dog trainers will not use force and the old jerk and pull method found with so many "PRIVATE" trainers. Once you have a few on your list then ask if you can go watch a session. I don't know of any club that would mind that. This will give you an opportunity to see how they train. Hope that helps.

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If you do a board/train make SURE you do your homework & research the training facility to the nth degree!  I know that 1 rotten apple is not the whole barrel, and there are trainers out there that love their dogs as much as we do, however...  Several months ago here in the Atlanta GA area there were some trainers who were not good ones.  After coming back from "field" training (hunting dogs) several had to be put down due to various problems including 2 with broken jaws that weren't taken to the vet immediately (not until the owner picked up the dog after it's "training"), & others had broken teeth where the dogs had been hit in the muzzle (not put down but still - I can't imagine the pain the poor babies had when trying to eat!), open wounds that could have been gotten in the field but weren't taken care of, several psychological problems....  It was horrible!!!! 

I've never been a fan of this type of training, but I'll never even consider it for any dog I ever have now.  If I'm not allowed to see & participate in the training & keep my dog with me...

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Unfortunately there are trainers who believe that to properly train a dog you have to instill fear. That is probably the way they were trained as kids. We also see managers who believe the way to motivate employees is to install fear and insecurity. They think they are sucessfull because they do see some results, but never ever accomplish the results of a manager or trainer who treats the trainee/employee with respect and care. Fear does not work long for animals or humans.

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I would compile a list of training clubs and facilities and then visit each one by yourself, without your puppy, to get a feel for the class. If possible, talk to a couple of the people taking the class afterward to see how well its working and how they feel about the curriculum and the trainer. Beware of phrases like "Well I personally wouldn't have been that rough but it seems to be working..." Watch the dogs to see how happy they are to be there and watch how they react to the trainer. You should be able to narrow down to a few good trainers and then talk to the trainers themselves, get an idea of how their methods sound to you and what kind of certifications they have, how many years experiance, etc. Good luck!