Woo Woes (Rant - nothing more, nothing less)

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*Sigh* After thinking we were moving forward and only forward, Kayenne and myself came to a standstill today. Walking up the road, there was an off leash Lab. He came running down, Kay wooed, and that's where the woes began...

 

After the owner of the Lab attemtped to blame myself, and then Kay, and then her general Breed, he realised nor me or Kay were stupid, and that he'd be better just walking away. She became a very jumpy pupper for the rest of the walk. I was able to successfully calm her down toward the end, but she wasn't a very good littl'un around the Shar Pei's, who we pass by on a daily basis, and have been working hard on.

 

I admit to repeating "It is your fault, it is not her fault" over and over in my mind throughout the walk, but I failed to keep calm enough. We had to Sit-Wait as a little Shetland Sheepdog walked passed.

 

And then came a run in the field behind the house, so that she could burn off some steam just before heading out to dog class. I always give her a good run in the field before taking her out anywhere, so that she's more relaxed and will be more focused on me throughout the walk. Well, kids were in the field, so back inside we go. Ten minutes later, we were successfully up and burning steam, when two young children watched from the other side of a fence. twenty minutes into the run, Kayenne spotted the kids, and wooed. One of them ran into the house, I'd assume, crying. Er. She DID just bark. She didn't run toward them, or even stop running back toward me. SHE was just as scared as them. Two minutes later, out came mama, who just stood by the fence. That was it. I was a bit confused, but shouted an apology and continued with what I was doing.

 

If they were new in the neighbourhood, I'd have felt terrible, but the entire family has met baby Kay, rebellious Kay, and now Teenage Kay. It's not like they weren't aware I run her in the field. They know what she's like, and know that she wouldn't get close enough to bite, even if she were that sort of dog, because she's too much of a wussy dog (said with love).

 

And then off to dog class we went. Woo, woo, woo at Jessie, Woo, woo, woo at the people who entered the hall before us, woo, woo, woo at cars that went passed...Whine, whine, whine as the lead was clipped back to her collar. Then she wouldn't do any distance commands at all. She's usually wonderful with them, because I've been working incredibly hard on those...But nooo. "Down? I'll just come TOWARD YOU! Sit? Er, what's that? Come? NOOOO! You're horrible to me! I'll run all around the class, trying to play with Jessie, and then cower (because, of course, you beat me) when you bellow my name!"

 

Wahhh...

 

*Feeling negative...Bad girl.*

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Oh no  So so funny... I love the "Woo Woes" but just you wait, as Kay gets bigger, it's going to be:

WOOOOO!!

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LOL, sounds like a typical puppy story to me.  It's two steps forward and one step back.  Watch, next week she will be the *star* of the class!

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Noooo!

 

Hopefully she'll understand that being quiet means she gets to see what she wants, and anything other than silence is just something she don't want anythign to do with...But it doesn't seem very likely at the moment. I think I've been getting a bit cocky, as well.

 

Heh. My bad.

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I like that thought, HarleyBear.

 

Last week she was Star of the Class...And I'm not joking. We werre actually doing distance commands, heeling, swip-swapping dogs, everything. She was perfect. Then again, every dog that I was handed on the swap was perfect...

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Off leash dogs is one thing i CAN NOT STAND!   I make it a point to ask ANYONE i see with a dog off leash if they know what the law is or do i need to explain it to them...i then point out that while i am not trying to be rude but that if their dog rushes me i WILL turn my babies loose to protect me and THEY would be at fault for breaking the leash law....they hookem up everytime..lol

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Why does it matter if a dog is off leash?  seriously,  what is the big deal if they aren't bothering you.  I take Rocky to the big field almost daily and let him run.  Nothing is more beautiful than watching him run full out and leap into the pond and then come back to me at 100 mph grining and panting.  It's great exercise for him and he loves it.  He never gets more than 50 yards or so from me at any time and he listens when I call him.  So if people don't like I have him off-leash I say tough crap....

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operative words Lori--"listens when I call him"  Makes all the difference.

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Because plain and simple Lori no matter how well behaved a baby may be it is still an animal that can do what it wants when it wants...and while i am sure your baby comes everytime you call him and would never hurt a flea the law is the law

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There's no point walking your dog if you can't exercise him. A on lead walk, unless you're running/roller blader/cycling or otherwise getting the dog running, is completely pointless. I walk mine to wear 'em out, not let them sniff the green green grass.

 

However, off lead dogs on roads is something I draw the line at. The man I talked about above with his Lab has the dog unleashed alongside roads, which is highly illegal, and just shouts "'s okay! He's friendly!" My usual response is "Yeah?! Well mine isn't!" and he gets his do back to him pronto. Although Kay is friendly...Asking him to leash the dog seems to fall on deaf ears. One day, the dog will actually charge an aggressive or fearful dog and be hurt. Thankfully, it'll always be the Lab Mans fault.

 

But anywho...If I'm not going to let my dogs off lead when I'm out, then we don't go out. Of course, I do training sessions a couple of times a day with Kayenne, but if I plan to walk them, then I plan to run them, and if they're not off lead, they can't run, therefore won't burn any energy at all, so it's pointless and a waste of time and effort on my part.

 

I suppose it depends where you live. If it's illegal to have your dogs off lead in the local park, then you wouldn't have them off lead. That sort of thing. Luckily, my neighbourhood is pretty dog friendly. If it turns anti-dog, that's OK, (small brag ahead) because I have a field attaching onto my back yard/garden.

 

I understand some people aren't that lucky. Which is why you should be able to take your dogs somewhere to let them off the leash. I couldn't imagine having a dog I can't let run every day. She's already too hyper for my liking. "YAY! Ball! Fingber! Field!" *10 minutes later* "OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG! WALKKKK!"

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Lori I think where you are choosing to let Rocky off leash is different.  I'm sure if you saw people walking towards you with dogs, you'd keep Rocky to you.  No one gets upset when the dog is well mannered and minds the voice but so few owners DO have this response it is why we have the law.

I've been attacked by off leash dogs before - you know the story.  It was not a dog that had the verbal response of "come".  It kept coming at ME and the man was chasing after his dog like a madman and STILL couldn't get the dog off of Steve.

I do not let Steve off leash at all in the parks, even though there's plenty of room for him to run, because he will not respond to a verbal command.  It's just the proper thing to do.  Now, my other dogs that have been good at come, sit, down, and ignore other dogs?  Never thought twice about unhooking them to run around a field.  But on the street?  Where people walk with leashed dogs, cars fly past, kids are out? Only dog I've ever trusted for that is the chihuahua.

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The only dog I had that didn't respond to "Come" (or any command, for that matter) was my first Doberman, Roxy, a rescue who I had to rehome. Even Jack, my DA/HA Dobie responded to Sit, Down (God forbid! He was lazy, too...) and Come. I wouldn't let him off lead during the day, but on our 5AM morning walks he was off lead with a flourescent dog jacket, halter, harness and handle-lead, just in case. I didn't have the field out back at that time, so I kinda had no choice but to exercise him in public places. We never had to deal with off lead aggressive Jack, though. It was always on lead (makes me realise that, in the long run, I'm a pretty good (lucky?) owner, LOL).

 

Kay is brilliant with all commands outside, apart from "Leave" and "Quiet". She's off lead whenever she can be. I leash her out of manners around people and dogs, until we've met and have talked, and the dogs are used to eachother and whatnot. She's a dopey Dobe, so around small kids she's always on lead. I have a fear of her knocking down a child, because she'd possibly trample it as she tried to get away from what "attacked" her. AKA, fell on her.

 

She pretty much ignores dogs in the distance. Doesn't bother with them. And because I leash her around dogs that are getting close, I've never had the problem of her not coming back. Apart from when she was a puppy-puppy, and she ran all the way home. Only her fourth walk, and it was just up the lane, but still unacceptable. She learned never to do THAT again...

 

I feel fairly confident that I could get her back to me in any situation. One of my mates brought out one of my other dogs a week or so back. He met me when I was walking Kay. I recognised them both immediately, so left Kay off lead. Friend let the JRT off lead. Kay wooed. Ran over. I thought "Ha, that'll teach her to bark at strange dogs" assuming that my well behaved, perfect, you're-the-dog-I-always-wanted JRT would just take no notice of her, as she does with any and every dog that charges at her wooin'. Wrong. JRT took off down the road, Kay was terrified, having recognised my friend and, I suppose, the JRT. She came running back, and I had to apologise severely to the woman who JRT hid behind. "I'm so sorry, my dogs are a bit dim and don't recognise me, or themselves." Well. That failed, LOL. No harm done. If the dogs didn't feel stupid, I sure did. Hehheh.

 

But the important thing is, the JRT knows that people are safe, and Kay came back when she was called. Why didn't I call her sooner, you ask? I was a bit confused. Hehheh.

 

And the moral of this story is: If Kay can do it, so can you! (Is that even a moral?...Naw...)

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am i the only one who doesn't know what wooing is?  :/

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It's a howling-ish noise. Sounds like Woowoowoowoowoo. 

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You know how ghouls make that spooky "wooo-O-oOoo" noise? Imagine that, but louder and with more confidence.

 

Woo-woo-woo-woof!

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I know this is a random reference, but it reminds me of what the bloodhound does at the end of Lady and the Tramp (yes, I am 27 years old and I still love that movie!).  I have definitely heard Harley do it when he thinks someone is outside our door.

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Rocky does listen but I can also see anyone coming from a long distance off.  I watch for people as some of the guys fish around the pond.   He's never off leash just wandering around with me,  I take him to the big field.  That's his play area.   He's even tied on a 25 ft lead when he's in the yard with me mainly because I'm probably not watching him 100% of the time.  I don't want him to see something and wander off or run to the edge of the driveway and scare someone. 

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That's what I worry about most, Lori. If Kayenne were to scare someone, they could report her as a dangerous dog. She doesn't even need to bite someone to be given the "Dangerous" title. Which is really sad, if you think about it. But alas, this is just how it is. Most people are willing to stay and greet her properly if she scares them, and then they feel more confident that she won't rip their face off (espeically when they see her try to crawl up my body and be carried around...) but I get the few people who just see her walking passed and shriek as if she barked, lunged and snapped at 'em.

 

Although I complain that she gets over excited around dogs she's never met before, I can't really knock it, because she's brilliant around people. Sure, she might not be willing to give kisses and hugs to everybody who greets her, but she doesn't bark, growl or pay much interest in people unless she's been caught off guard, and even then it's "WOO-WOO-WOOF!" *Wiggle wiggle wiggle, chinese eyes, ears back, licky, licky, licky*

 

All it takes is someone to be scared, though.

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Woo Woo Woo Woof, yep heard it before.... with and without hackles... no WOO WOOs are not fun

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I do half & half. He is on a leash but I let it hang behind him. It gives him the freedom to do has he pleases but if I see another person/animal I can grab the leash very quickly.

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