To walk the puppy or not to walk the puppy??

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Hello all, I am a noob here and this is our first Doberman puppy. I have read that a puppy under 6 months should not be given any corrections. I also have read that you should not use a harness as it encourages pulling. When I walk our 12 week old puppy around the block she pulls on the leash and chokes herself. Should I wait to walk her? I don't want her to think that is ok and continue to do that as she gets older. Should I start giving her corrections? Any suggestions are appreciated. THANKS!

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I've never heard of no corrections until 6 months wow I begin training immediately

think obedience classes they start as early as 8-10 weeks old with all breeds - who told you to let your dog kinda do their thing???

I will say this - what kind of corrections are you referring to?? I train with praise and treats very rarely is a negative correction ever used in my house......it has to be a serious infraction for negative correction - is that what you are referring to?? either way I would disregard the no training remark and begin immediately puppies are like children they learn when they are young once a habit has been formed it's much harder to "unlearn" the habit than it is to teach the proper habit from the start.

always always train your dog from the beginning how else will the dog know what is expected??? and dogs love discipline and order and routine so without any of those your dog is confused, frustrated, and scared cause they don't know what's happening or what you want......

walking is great exercise and chances for dog interactions while out and about it keeps the socialization up so you definitely want to walk your dog but you need to train the dog HOW to walk on a leash first

Have you considered an obedience class to get the basics down with other dogs around and people and a teacher that can help you with what sounds like a normal rowdy untrained puppy??? you would be amazed at how quickly they learn and retain this info

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Hi! Actually there is an article on this site that says no physical correction should be given to a puppy under 6 months. So when I'm walking my puppy I praise her when she is not pulling but that's not very often.
In my area they don't start obedience classes until 12 weeks and the puppy must have had two rounds of vacations. I do have obedience training sessions set up for the beginning of next month. I just was wondering what to do until then. Don't get me wrong, she has plenty of exercise and training ( by myself and my family) I'm just stuck on the going for a walk part.
Thanks for all of your input!

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FYI  I would say this is the key "no physical correction".  She will need lots of corrections before she is 6 mos, and will be a Dobershark very soon, have to nip that in the bud.  Walking is also very important, Dobies need lots of physical activity to be truly happy and healthy.  Training takes time and patience, and you will need a LOT of that with a baby Dobies, it never ends.  I used NO, and then a redirection with lots of praise in the beginning.  Did better with my male, I still let the female get away with things too much, she is just so darn cute, she melts me every time I am trying to be big bad mom.

 

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Ok. I get the redirection, we use that all of the time in other situations...
When I walk the puppy and she starts to pull (which is right away) I tell her "NO" but how exactly am I supposed to redirect her so that she understands it's not ok to pull on the lead?

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For that I use the start and stop method.  Everytime they pull you have to stop, give the no and wait for the leash to become slack.  Back in to position by your side and start again.  Yes, walks become stops.  I also live in the middle of nowhere, so the gain to a good walk is being let off leash to run wild, and that is a powerful reward for my two.  I still have issues with the pulling when we walk at home, but anywhere else my two are completly different dogs.   Also I am a fan of the prong collar, mine know when the prong is on, they are working dogs. It stopping the pulling almost automatically, but your baby is too young for that now.  You can also try keeping her on leash in the house, for my female really had issues in the beginning with the leash, male never did.

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Thanks. I'll try the start/stop method. We have a a very large back yard which she loves to run around and play but whenever I put her on the leash to walk to the trail she gets so curious and wants to pull me everywhere. She loooooves kids and other dogs, so if we walk by them the walk is over, LOL , she just wants to play with them. Guess we need to work on that before we go too far. :)
I tried to leave her on a leash in the house but got frustrated because she was obsessed with chewing it. Didn't matter how many toys or bones I gave her she just wanted to eat the leash. Haha. She's so sweet I hated getting on to her every second she had the leash on.
Thanks for the great advice!

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Oh I'm so with you on the pulling! You will want to nip that in the bud for sure because when they are full grown dobermans have so much strength you could really get injured not to mention you are bound to lose your cool once and a while. These guys really test your patience. Sih002 has it the stop go method is probably the best and gentlest way to start training that out. You don't really get much much of a walk but they get plenty of exercise mentally and physically because they are so frustrated!

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I would practice healing at home. Hold the treat by your side and praise as she follows then move this outside and repeat till she understands. Then practice in other areas. I used a slip lead at 4 months but I never walked him very long due to growth plates. We did a lot of mental stimulation and puppy play and training :)

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Update! Athena is 17 weeks now and we have made some progress with walking on lead. YAY! SIH002 the start stop has been working! Thank you! I am working with a trainer from Sit Means Sit and things are moving along slow and steady. :) She still tries to pounce on every dog we see (playfully) so we are still working on that. We visited the dog park for the first time recently and she absolutely loved it. She was timid at first but well behaved. I think it helped that it was a rainy day because there were only 3 or 4 dogs there so she wasn't overwhelmed. She ran and ran.. then slept the rest of the afternoon. lol.  I hope the more she gets to play off lead the less she will fuss on lead.

Now that we are improving on the walking we need to work on the "LEAVE IT!" lol She is worse than my toddler! She tries to eat anything she can find although she prefers to eat socks which coincidentally my three children leave everywhere! :) 

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Here's how we taught ' Leave It'..

Put her in a down position.... place a little treat about a foot or so in front of her. Tell her 'Leave it' when she goes for it..  immediately place your hand over the treat.. saying  " Leave it."
Keep it there and tell her " good leave'.. then open your hand and tell her ' okay'

Keep doing this for a couple of mins. several times a day.

It works....................................sometimes.... haaha

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Good Girl Athena!  Yep sure to agree with "A TIRED doberman is a HAPPY doberman"  My two are very lucky living in the woods, they are off line most of the time.

Is she teething, that maybe why she is going after everything in sight.  Frozen kong toys work well for that stage. 

I also used the same training method as Lady Kate.  Kinda used it for Wait command too.  I am always saying "Wait for Mom", on our treks and that means to hold still till I catch up.  They both do wait very well, for they perform it 10 times each night on the walk, HA! 

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Thanks Lady Kate I will try that!  Why didn't I think of that!? haha

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SIH002 I kind of thought she would be done with teething by now but maybe not... I have a kong and a giant rubber binky that i stick a little peanutbutter in then freeze. She loves them but I can't keep up! I need to get a couple more. I love that you can say "Wait for mom" and they do it. I am saying it all of the time to my kids, maybe Athena will learn it too...