PLEASE HELP! GIVING HER AWAY??!

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My husband and I have a 2.5 year old beautiful female doberman. We had her since she was 12 weeks.

Since she was a puppy she started to shed, I mean SHED, a lot. We took her to three different vets, they said there is nothing worng with her, its just the dog's feature. The breeded only advised us to give her fish oil and another supplement that has differnet oils in it. Nothing helps, she still loses a lot of hair. Everyday brooming collects a big handfull amount of hair.

 

Besides, we did a  mistake,wewe never took her for training, now she is destroying evetything- anythign she finds on the backyard: toys, balls, grass, plants, trees. EVERYTHING. We thought we could train her ourselves, but we failed.

She is very submissive to my husband, but when its a backyard time, she doesn't listen to him, she playes and looses control, and she finaly comes to him, she is trembling, becuase she knows she misbehaved.

She eats poops, we can't leave her playing on the backyard on her own, she eats her poop. At some point she stopped, and now she does it again, if you tunr away your head for a second, she is sneaking to the poops. That is disgusting.

TOday My husband said that she wants to give her away, he can't deal with her anymore, with her hair in all over the house, including his underwear and dishwasher. He can't see her eating her feces, he can't have her crying in the morning, because she wants to play on the backyard, he can't have her tearing apart things and so on.

Please help, has anyone gone through this? 

I cant imagine giving her away, but at the same time, I understand how frustrating it is for him. He is mainly the one who cares for her, as our child is 1 year old I spend most of my time with him. 

I feel bad, If we give her away, it means that we failed and betrayed our family member.

 

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I hope you will give her back to your breeder or at least let them know she is available, OR give her up to a responsible Doberman Rescue Organization. They will find her the home that she needs. It looks to me like this would be best scenario and later on you can get another dog if your family is committed to its training and upbringing.

Understandably she has turned out this way because there was not enough time and  attention paid to her i.e. training etc and she needed boundaries, patience and exercize not to mention knowledge and understanding.

Is she a fawn or blue dobie? They tend to have fur issues. Bella sheds but its not an annoying amount. Most dogs shed. I hope that she does not get reprimanded for coming when called, even if its later than requested. Is she afraid of your husband/

You and your husband were likely understandably engrossed in your human child.

just mho

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No, she is black. I would not expect her not to shed at all, that's a healthy process in every dog of any breed. But I am tlaking about an excessive shedding, EXCESSIVE.

And she is afarid of my husband but in a healthy way, but she is attached to him, she loves him. I would call him an Alpha person for her.

"I hope that she does not get reprimanded for coming when called, even if its later than requested." when you say that do you mean that the breeder can write her off as a defected one?Sorry, I just didn't understand what you mean.

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I'm sorry for the confusion. I do not mean to be judgemental in any way.

Some (of the responsible) breeders have it in their sales contracts that they will take a dog back in case the adopters get overwhelmed or for many other reasons. 

The other question is about recall, and keeping it a very positive thing when she does 'come'

Sometimes Bella is out barking at the shadows and doesn't respond to recall very well. But we always greet her with positive vibes when she 'comes'   :) 

That way they remember you doing a dance for them and it makes them want to be good doggies as opposed the negative re-inforcement training which hardly works on Dobies, because they are so sensitive.

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That's so hard....I can't imagine myself giving her away. I will have to live with this heaviness in my heart that I betryaed someone who deseprately loved us and trusted.

Tomorrow we are having a consultation on a training for her, I do look forward to getting her trained. But don't know what to do with shedding. I can't have my child around it, cause it's ablsutely everywhere. Any ideas?

some suggestions: If she came from a reputable breeder, they will take her back for any reason.... that is what reputable breeders do.  If they won't take her back, then look for a good Doberman rescue - I believe there is a list of approved ones on the Doberman Pinscher Club of America website:   www.dpca.org

If you try to rehome her by yourself, ask for vet references, and CALL THEM!  Make sure she is spayed before rehoming her - you would be sickened by what people do with free Dobermans: use them as bait dogs for training pit bulls, or start breeding them every heat cycle before throwing them away.... or worse (see above)

If you are going to keep her:

Take her to the vet and ask for a full thyroid panel - low thyroid is VERY common in Dobermans and easily treated. Low thyroid can cause coat issues like excessive shedding. 

Look at what you are feeding her - cheap kibble can cause coat issues/allergies also. Poor nutrition can also cause a dog to eat their poop.... although some dogs just like it. 

Make sure you are cleaning up her poop as soon as she goes - she can't eat it if there isn't any laying around. 

Dobermans are super active and intellegent dogs - they can become destructive if bored. Training is for more than obedience - it engages their mind. Even when just sitting and relaxing in my family room, I work with my dogs. I work with simple obedience - sit, down, stand, stay. My Harvard does "high five, and high ten" - he will do this over and over.  I still go to weekly obedience classes with my 5 year old girl, Jezebel. She loves going to class - even though she hates all the dogs there. 

Finally, leaving my dogs alone in the yard would also result in destruction. They love to tear up the grass by the roots and run around with it... then they eat it. We built a graveled dog run that they access right from our deck. It is 20 x 30' and there is nothing that they can destroy in it. They only have access to the fenced yard (which is 11000 sq feet) when we can be out watching them. It really saves our yard, and makes poop clean up much easier. 

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Where are you located at? I would be interested in taking her.I have Vader a 7yo rescue dode.

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Hi guys,

 

Here I am again. SInce my last post we decided to keep her and train.  So we found a K9 trainer and over the two weeks we saw an improvment. 

However, shedding did not stop and it even worsened. By the way we did check the thyroid panel, everything is fine.  We spoke to the breader about it and arranged the return. Unfortunatelly she will have to go in a month. This is where our story is ending.

We won't be taking any more dogs. 

So after 4 1/2 years you are getting rid of your dog because she sheds...... I'm glad you are not getting another dog.... please don't.  Sad.

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Of all the silly reasons I have heard of for getting rid of a dog, 'shedding' tops the list.  Sorry, but it is.  We have had a lot of rescued dogs over the past several years, most of them smaller dogs, and some of the reasons their owners decide to get rid of them are: we are having a baby and can't keep the dog; the dog is old and smelly so take him and euthanize him; I dont have the time to spend with this dog like I would like to.  Unreal.  But seriously, the doberman sheds, so you are getting rid of it?  Unbelievable.

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It has been a long while since I have been on here. I need to update my profile for my dogs.

As one who is involved in rescue (I am a transporter in the S. Georgia area), I have to agree with DJ's dad. To me, it would seen that a simple healthy brushing each moring when outside would solve the issue. It would accomplish two things, it would remove the loose hair and stimulate the skin. I am not talking about a brushing with heavy pressure, but one with light even long strokes.

Regardless of what others may say, ALL DOGS SHED.

The second mistake I see, although they did not say it, is that she was probably dumped in the back yard to entertain herself while they went about their business in the house. There is a reason Dobies are referred to as "Velcro Dogs" - they want to be with the people. If you dump them outside to "entertain themselves" for more than a few minutes, they will entertain themselves, by digging, chewing and other pastimes that humand generally don't relish.

I feel for the dog. She was not properly care for. She was not abused physically or starved, but she gave the signals that she was ignored.

Just my view on the topic.

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To me, it would seen that a simple healthy brushing each moring when outside would solve the issue. It would accomplish two things, it would remove the loose hair and stimulate the skin. I am not talking about a brushing with heavy pressure, but one with light even long strokes.

 

I have used an air blower for years. 100psi gets everything that is loose off in seconds.

So long as you do not point it at their face or dangly bits they tolerate it just fine. Some dogs end up liking it...