New pup in Northern AZ

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Hello everyone!

Just introducing our new pup, Rex.  I adopted him from his previous owner at 4.75 months old.  He was loved very much, but allowed to behave as a wild man (ie bouncing off the walls/couch, jumping on people, pulling on the leash, no manners, exessive barking, etc.).  I'm used to well behaved dogs, so he's been going through some intensive training (everything is a training opportunity, right?).  He has improved immensely in several areas after just a few days: jumping on people is rare now, he can heel, sit, wait, leave it, dremmeling nails.  We are working on how to be calm indoors.  He shares his home with a very well trained and polite black mouth cur (we are a Pet Partners therapy team), a leash-walking cool cat, 2 bipedal offspring (8 and 2 years old), and me.  I grew up with Dobermans, and when the opportunity arose to adopt one, I couldn't turn it down.  He's already as big as a small horse.

His previous owner was feeding him Blue Buffalo large breed puppy, but his stools are very loose (soft serve ice cream consistency).  Do large breed pups do well on a commercial frozen diet like Nature's Variety frozen medalions?  He has also developed a few bald spots, which will get checked out by the vet next week.  In the meantime, I imagine it's demodex or a possible food allergy...any other ideas?  

He's such a love.  I don't think I have his full trust yet, but there are several instances when he shows his true sweet self, and I just melt.  He gets 2 hikes a day with our other dog for exercise...and of course we train there too.  I'm a little bit of a training fanatic...and he's so food-driven and smart, it's very easy with him.  I work from home, and he's giving me the perfect excuse to go outside more often and take frequent work breaks.      

 

 

 

 

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Sound like you and Rex are off to a great start together.  Enjoy, and keep us updated on Rex's progress.  We also love pics, and would love to see Rex.

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Thanks, SIH002!

I'm not sure how to post images...all I see is a space for a URL.  Is there a sticky with instructions somewhere?

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Not really.  On the URL, click browse server.  The next screen is where your have to upload your pic to the URL, after you get you pic in there, click on insert file, that will attach it to your new comment. 

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   My Dobes had loose stools on Blue Buffalo too, luckily never any food allergy problems.  Sounds like you are on the way to having well behaved boy. 

At his age, I'd transition him off of puppy food and onto an all-life-stages food. Blue Buffalo is not a bad food, but there are many out there that are better.  My guys personally do better on a kibble without chicken - I feed fish based personally, but food allergies usually don't show up till they are a bit older.  A good way to compare foods is on this website:   http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com

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Fitzmar, thanks for the link.  There are some horror stories involving blue buffalo in there.  BB is what the previous owner was feeding, and pup came to me with a giant bag of the kibble.  I figured I would keep him on it to help with the transition to a new home.  My cat is on Nature's Variety raw bites, so I think I'll switch the dogs to NV raw.  We'll be going to our local feedstore today and pick some up.  I hope this will help firm up Rex's stools.  My other dog eats honest kitchen mixed with my human children's left overs.  She's 7 years old and acts like a puppy.  It's just hard for me personally to keep so much meat in the freezer...we are not vegetarians but I don't keep/cook meat at home.  

DOGMAN, thanks for sharing your experience with BB.  Glad Rex isn't the only one not doing so great on it.

SIH002, thanks for the detailed instructions.  I tried to upload a few photos, but I got an error message telling me they were too large.  I'll see if I can figure out how to make them smaller.

 

Do most doberman puppies go crazy at the water bowl?  Rex drinks like his life depends on it (super excited and hurried gulps, air, splashing everywhere, etc.).  I don't know if this is a breed thing, or if maybe his previous owner restricted water intake, or if he has a medical issue.  I'm not referrring to the water that inevitably falls out of their mouth as they walk away from the water bowl.  This is almost an obsessive one-track-mind mission to drink as much as possible in as short a period of time possible.  Any input?  We have a vet appointment on Wednesday, so I'll mention it there too.  Hopefully, switching him away from kibble will help with this odd behavior.

    

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Congratulations on your new adventure with Rex  :)

Re: water bowl......DJ will drink like there is no tomorrow when we get home from being gone, sling water all over the kitchen floor (creating 'dober lakes and streams') and then look for an unsuspecting subject (usually me) to wipe her face on the leg of their jeans.  Sigh.  Normal procedure.  

Can hardly wait to see photos of your Rex.

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I've had several large dogs and they often eat and drink like they haven't had anything for days.  Growing pups can't get enough.  If Rex is putting out normal amounts of urine he's probably OK.  We keep the water bowls on our screened porch now.  Zeke and Ruby have to go out to get water.  The bowls are just outside the doors so it's not too great a hardship for them.  My Dobes spend some time in the back yard but they mostly want to be inside.  Sometimes if it's extremely cold we will have water bowls inside.  Towels are close by to clean up the mess.  As you have said, they seem to be in a contest to see how much they can spill on the floor.    

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  My neighbors and my daughter have Goldendoodles.  With their beards they can sling water and rub water on you in a way that makes the Dobes look dainty. 

Hard to say on the water consumption - I keep fresh water out at all times. They do dribble all over the kitchen floor when they walk away, but are not water hogs. Keep an eye on the amount of water he drinks and how much he pees. If it seems excessive, I would definitely ask the vet about it.  If water was not always available at his last home, he may be thinking that he has to drink when it is down. If this is the case, he will hopefully soon learn that water is always available and will start to moderate. 

If you have a really good feed store, they may be able to help you with a kibble selection based on your budget. You don't have to do grain free, but I would look for wheat and corn free for sure.  I feed a really good locally made kibble called "Annamaet" they have several different levels and I do the grain free fish. However, I don't feed that to my puppies until they are over a year old. There are several good all-life-stages kibbles out there that would be great for your puppy. 

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We took him on quite a long outing today...there was an event downtown, and he came with us and the kids (plus their friends), and lots of bikes, smells, noise, and people.  He was very polite with all the people who asked to pet him.  We had lunch outdoors, and he only barked a few times.  We live in a very pet friendly town, so he got his own huge water bowl next to our table (still gulped like there was no tomorrow).  We were rained out for about 45 minutes during a monsoon storm, so we waited inside a store.  Tons of opportunities to train "leave it."  He tries so hard.  :)  It was all very exciting to him, and he did great, albeit pulling on the leash more than I would like.  Every day gets better.  I found it very interesting that most of the people who came to say hi were other doberman owners, and they were all so unique.  One family told us it took their dog 4 years to calm down, another family told us 9 months.  One family told us they couldn't walk their dogs out in public because they hated children and wanted to kill other dogs, while another family told us their dobie was a mother's helper.  I was surprised by the varied anectodes, and hope that training and socialization turn our pup into a polite canine that can safely partake in our every day lives (at home and otherwise).  Do you feel like it's more of an indivdual dog's temperament/nature, or that it is how an individual dog is nurtured that carries the most weight?

I hope the pictures I'm trying to attach show up.  If they do, the first photo shows a few of his bald spots (between his eyes, front left leg, back left thigh). 

We decided to get him started on Nature's Variety raw.  I fed him 3 frozen patties, and he loved them.  It's hot where we live, so it must have felt nice.  Plus, being frozen, it really slowed down his eating.  I'll use kibble for training, as I interchange training rewards between praise and treats.

 

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Not eating kibble has helped immensely with Rex's water obsession.  He ate only raw yesterday and today he barely needed a few sips first thing in the morning.  He also had compact firm stools!   This is the first time I've ever seen that from him!   I think Nature's Variety agrees with him.  So happy for our boy! 

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   I know a lot of people believe that training and socializing will make any dog a sweetheart. I think that nature preprograms a lot of a dog's behavior and nurture can only change so much.  I think a lot of a dog's personality and attitude comes with their dna.  My first male Dobe loved everyone and would lean against people to get petted.  My second male Dobe is very calm and laid back, but does not care about getting attention from people.  He accepts being petted and fussed over but does not seek this out.  My female Dobe is slow to warm up to people and is suspicious of strangers and even some people she's familiar with.  She will pull back and maybe bark if a stranger insists on petting her.  All these Dobes were exposed to all kinds of social activity and experiences.  I think modern Doberman breeders have focused on a friendlier more family oriented dog than the original creators of the breed.  Dobermans started out as a protection/guard dog.  Like any breed the range of personalities can run the gamut.  Odds are Dobes are not going to be as friendly as Labs or Golden retreivers.  I am definitely more careful with my Dobes around my Grandkids then I had been with my Labs around the kids.  You can nurture all you want but you have to be realistic about a dog's personality.   You probably have a sweet natured pup.  He certainly is handsome. Some dogs will be sweet and friendly and some will not.  This can apply to any breed.     

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Do you also have a Plott Hound?? They are so beautiful. I wanted to get one before we adopted Bella! Rex is really handsome.

I hope the new diet clears up his skin issues. Bella eats a raw beef back bone every day. She gets TOTW SPacific Stream and we moisten it with (home made) Chicken Broth and some boiled chicken. Her water consuption is fairly low, I think because her kibble is always kind of swimming in her broth.

Bella definately shows how comfortable she is with just us and then varying degress of being wary when there is a crowd here or she is out at the mall or at someone elses house. Her reactions to these different environments are all noticeable. She is way loveable and affectionate and relaxed here, but just patient and wanting to go home asap, unless we are out on a hike/ expedition or to the park.