Doberman and laser pointer...interesting combo

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Hey guys!  It's been a while since I've posted anything.  Still check in on occassion, but haven't had anything worthwhile to say; until now! LOL

Niko and Boss are both doing awesome!  They liven our days and make life better.  But, you guys already know that about our fur babies!!

My son, Angus, has a laser pointer and was playing with the kitty, well, Niko and I got home and OMIGOSH!!  He has turned into a laser fanatic!!  Idk if this is normal Dobie behavior or just my Niko being his normal odd little self.  But, he goes bonkers as soon as he sees one of us pick up the laser.  Most cats never figure out where the light is coming from, but Niko had it pegged in about 10 minutes.  

I've included a link for a video of Niko and Dad playing tonight.  Watch Niko's butt at about the 30-31 second mark.  His WHOLE back end wiggles!!  Love it!!

I'd love to hear from other members on how their dobies react to laser pointers, or if they have tried them.  

We are very careful not to point it in his eyes or run him to ragged on it, but man, he is so sexcited about it!

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v-E7hZGZNyqA

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Ben my rottie chases the laser as does the chihuahua, had to stop using it as Ben is so heavy and moving so fast his hips were causing him to fall the cats were upset, all the cats know the noise of the chain on ours and most of my cats stopped playing with the light and wanted to play with the source of the light, they figured that out almost instantly.....the chihuahua tries twice to catch it and then looks at me as if to say "you're tricking me and I will not humor you" hahahaha the old 20 year old cat will only play with the light when it is within proximity of her front feet she refuses to act like she would like to chase it......Ben is just nuts over it......really is funny you have to wonder why it works so well for them....

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I attended a seminar several years ago about ocd behaviours in dogs, and one of them was caused by laser pointers.  Shadow chasing/light chasing all kind of tied together.  These dogs became obsessed and spent their entire days chasing whatever kind of light/shadows that they could find or imagine.  The videos shown at the seminar were pretty disturbing, and the dogs were not leading normal lives. 

If you've got a dog that seems pretty hot for the laser pointer, frankly, I'd stop using it and not encourage that behaviour. 

I think the name of the person doing that research was Alice Moon Fanelli if anyone wants to look it up. 

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Daymian likes to chase the laser pointer too.  I thought it was okay for occasional use like a rainy day activity when he won't go out much for excersise.  He's apparently allergic to rain.  Although he tried to grab it out of Don's hand about a week ago.  I thought the only danger would be if he actually got a hold of it and chewed it up or swallowed the batteries.  I guess you never know what will harm your dog.  Kong's getting stuck on teeth, chemicals in ceramic dishes, cheap imported dog treats, etc. the list grows, and grows.... I think we'll still use the laser pointer, but not very often.

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I tried one with Fancy when she was younger.  It took her about 2 minutes to figure out where the light was coming from and wanted it from my hand.

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I was going to say the same thing as Glengate.  The problem here is the moving lights trigger a dogs prey instincts, that's why they chase it.  But, a light can never be caught obviously.  Some of these dogs will go on to chase their shadows, sunlights, and god forbid if a car drives by at night and they try to get the light.  Evenutally, this can cause the dogs to chase any and every light, shadow, etc.  Since these just can't be caught, but the dogs become obsessed with chasing, the ocd behaviors occur.  Once this happens, it is extremely difficult to stop.

 

Long story short, I would strongly recommend anyone that uses laser pointers, get a tennis ball or something instead.

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Wow.. thanks Glengate and Kevin.. I never knew that..Don't have a laser pointer so I don't know

what Sofia would do.. I know a lot of folks who play with them with their Dobermans. Good to read and REALLY see that's why we're so glad you're here on the Forum.

There really ARE people who aren't aware of certain things and your knowledge and willingness to share it is so appreciated

Kate and Sofia

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Thanks for the advice Glengate and Kevin, I didn't realize that it could become a bigger problem.  As of now, the laser pointer is gone.  I will NOT do anything to hurt my boy.  I'm really glad that you guys let me know of the hidden danger attached with them.  Thanks again!!

I know that in some dogs it CAN become a big problem. I think it really depends on what you are doing with it and how in tune to your dogs you are. 2 of the 4 of my dogs LOVE the laser light and the other 2 it is like it doesnt even exist, almost like they dont even see it lol.  Ive seen some animal shows that the dog was so affected by all kinds of light it could not live normally. Flasing from the sunlight and pans would send it into a craze.

My 2 dogs that I do use the laser light will only chase after the laser and not any other light we have tried using flashlights and they have no interest. They do not react to any kind of other natural light or flashing of any kind. 

Ive had great success in training both of my 2 using it as a reward. With conformation Paris was taught to hold her stack until the release and she would get to jump on the red dot a few times. Yes she does it without the laser and Ive been told by MANY people she is absolutely stunning at shows with her free stacking. If I add the laser light to her regimine she was just that much more on and presented the beautiful picture I wanted. I would also use it as a reward when we got out of the obedience and rally rings. It was an over the top extra special reward. I also used it in the winter time when we had tons of snow on the ground outside near dark. This gives both of them great exercise. 

To make a long story short I think it can be used productively but you have to know your dog. It is not something I would use on a daily basis whatsoever. Used in a experienced way and knowing your dog can be a good fun experience for both.

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I have had the same experience as RND, my dogs will hop on the light for a few times then just look at me like "really mom" and just stop playing with it, they prefer to watch the cats play with it, and even the cats stop after a while, I have two that would run themselves ragged after it but I only play with it for about 5 minutes once every two or three months and it's probably been 6 months now since they saw it come out. The crazy cats prefer to chase the windchime reflections on the kitchen floor or the reflections from my watch bezel on the walls as I move my hand/wrist.....

They are like people some people have addictive behavior tendencies where others don't.....if you notice an abnormal fixation by all means stop using it cause it is causing stress in your dog...and never shine it in their eyes.....

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My dobe, Brady has an extremely high prey drive. I cannot use the laser pointer with him, he will "look for it" for hours, even days after it is gone. He does the same thing if he sees a bug somewhere, a squirrel in the backyard, ANYTHING that moves and he can chase it! He also loves to play "hide and seek" where we hide his toys somewhere in the house and he has to go find the toy.