Where did they come from

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Ok everybody,
You are probably tired of seeing me in and out of here tonight. I am so excited to find competent information from doberman experience I can't stop "talking".

I have been poking around in the website all day and night instead of doing my usual gaming and I have looked at most everyone's doggie pics and curiosity has been eating me up:

Did all you rescue your dobes, are you breeders, get you dogs from breeders or a combo of all??? Just where did these beautiful and handsome dobermans originate?? And how did you find them????

Tal is in awe

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I had just lost my best friend (my doberman named Darmok) to cancer in September of 2009 and was missing not having a big dog in my home.  Looked for breeders close by, and either found high-priced over-the-top breeders that didn't even have any litters available right when I wanted a pup, or the opposite end of the spectrum, being people that had a female dobe, knew a good ol' boy that had a male, bred the two together to get puppies to sell and make some big bucks.  NO thank you! So I started expanding my searches thru the internet, found a breeder that had 2 good quality breeding pairs, nice kennel setup, family raised pups that were only a couple weeks old and he was about 250 miles west of where I live, across the state line into Illinois.  I wrote to him, called him, had him send photos and I put a deposit down on a puppy and went to pick her out when she turned 8 weeks old.  My next dobe will most likely be a rescue.  All my little dogs are rescues.

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We know almost nothing about Sofia's past. She showed up at the guard gate at our community one day out of the blue. Just this great big beautiful fawn girl who had recently littered. No sign of the pups, our vet guessed she was between three and five..which makes her between four and six now. We did an extensive search for her owners to no avail. She obviously "spoke" English as she knew 'sit'. But has never wanted to play. Sofia went into a horrible depression and we came close to losing her shortly afterward. She refused food and water and would take each of her stuffed toys upstairs, one by one and lay them down by her belly to nurse. Her maternal instinct overrides her strong prey drive as she's even taken a baby bunny into the house and gave it a bath. She is quiet and calm, a little snooty toward other dogs, craves the human touch and has become the Resident Diva here on the forum; ready to answer all questions re: grooming, accessories, how to get along with cats ( if necessary)etc. Her past is a mystery as well as her health history. I'm writing a book about her called The Life and Times of a Doberdiva. Some of the chapters were 'birthed' right here on the forum.

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My 2 are half brother and sister - came from a breeder  about 2 hours from my house...turns out she doesnt have the best breeding practices (puppy mill) even though she doesnt think she is....The light kinda clicked on when she called me to take a pup she couldnt sell (raven) she first told me she went to her home, then told me she indeed had been with her the whole time because the person backed out of the sale. My gain. Raven is my little love bug!

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We got Athena from a less than honorable breeder just under a year ago and our boy (getting him in 4 weeks) comes from a top notch breeder and the difference definately shows in the cost.

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Toki, now 3 1/2 was my grandsons.  He and his then girlfriend (now wife) got 2 male puppies from a local BYB. After the puppies were about a year old  he had to move and couldn't find a place that would accept 2 adolescent (not well trained) dobies.  So he was forced to get rid of both.  I took one and the other went to local rescue.  Best decision i ever made.

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I am enjoying reading all these adoption stories. Appreciate the sharing.....

Boo my oldest who is going to be 10 this year came all the way from the other side of the US from a show breeder (because that is what we do) on a 10hour flight. We bred her and have her daughter Paris whom was bred 2 years ago and we kept her son Romeo from the litter. I think it is kind of neat right now at my house we have grandma, mother and son. The personalities are all so different even right down to how they are trained. Romeo my youngest who is 15mo old is quite the handful so incredibly independent and confident that his obedience training is quite the challenge. I have him signed up for a 2 day EXPENSIVE Schutzhund seminar and I'm just a tad bit embarrassed as he is not good in obedience at all. I'm sure some people look at me and wonder if I've ever trained a dog before lol. I just want to take his mother or grandmother on the field and show them what were capable of. Every dog is different and this ones throwing me quite the learning curve lol. Still love each and every one of them though. They are all active in many areas and keep us very busy.

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I currently have 8 Dobermans, ages from 2 1/2 - nearly 12.  One of them is from a responsible, show breeder (Gorrmae), and the other 7 are all products (if you will) of my own breeding program. 

And Beautiful dogs you breed. Glengate you have enough to make your own sled dog team like the one from the you tube video I posted! I swear I'm going to try it with the 2 younger dogs I have this summer. I have a friend that teaches it with the scooter and then she does the racing in the winter. I think it would be great exercise for them. My husband and I are always looking for ways to keep them busy and fit (mentally as well as physically) and winters here are very challenging!

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I searched for Ella for 4 months before I found her. My heart was set on a Dobie, but there aren't many breeders in my area. I looked at Gulf Shores Doberman Rescue, but none of them had the personality that fit with me. A friend told me they saw someone advertising Doberman pups in Picayunne, MS which is about an hour away from where I live. And there, I fell in love!

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We got Steve from a gentlemen that breeds European lines.  My boyfriend's brother researched for a breeder for 2 years because he was so excited he would finally get one when he was married and owned a home.  Eli and I found out, to our surprise, that we had a mutual interest in the doberman breed when we first started dating.  It was one of his selling points, to me, don't you know!

When Matt & Lacey got Maynard, we were right there during the whole process with them.  Matt shared everything that went on... the breeder was great with updates of pictures and let them visit 3 times before they finally could take Maynard home.  

When we began looking for a home for ourselves I contacted their breeder and asked to be put on a list for his next litter.  He wasn't planning on breeding his pair until Decemember, but then he ended up with a litter in July and we waited anxiously to see if a black male would be coming.  Then we found out the mother only had one baby... and we kept our fingers crossed... it was great.  The first night in our new home I got an e-mail from Steve's breeder.  "ITS A BIG BOY!!"

We had more updates than you could ask for, met our boy 3 times, and brought him home to our house.

The other dogs hate him, but we love him to pieces.  When I graduate, if I get Steve active enough in some sport in which he can place at a competitive level, I may breed him.  I haven't decided yet.  It'd be neat if we could get a daughter of his.  His breeder has interest in using him to breed to another girl of his.  So we will see!

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Red is my old man, as he will be 8 in a little over three weeks. He came from a local breeder, a fellow who worked at the paper mill where I was an Accountant. I knew when I got him that he would never meet conformation.

Two years ago I got Princess who is a little over two. I found her through a member of this forum. They will not air freight a puppy, and I really didn't want her air freighted either. Since I was then retired, I saw nothing unusualy in driving up to get her. Of course some think I was crazy to drive over 900 miles to get her, especially in the dead of winter. THis was two years ago, and there was a string of winter storms going across the upper midwest. I timed my trip to drive up in between the storms. The trip went well, and I really had a fine time driving back with her, stopping every several hours to let her do her business.

The has become my cuddle bunny, as she really enjoys sitting in my lap in the evening and leaning against my chest, and placing her head and neck under my chin.

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We got Brinks as a 6 wk old puppy from a doberman rescue in northern NC near the VA border.  (They worked with the dobe rescue here in ATL for home visits, etc.)  I had been working with the rescue here already when I checked the surrounding states rescue sites.  Like Red & Princess, he's never known anywhere but home & his personality reflects it!

MiLady came from a local rescue 13 months ago.  She was about 16 months old when we got her -  very skittish & extremely underweight (1st vet visit weighed 49 lbs - now weighs 65) with physical evidence of mistreatment (that's all posted on a thread here somewhere...).  She's an absolute love & has put Brinks in his place more than once!

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I was researching breeders for my girl and a few days before I was going to contact a breeder... one of our neighbors told us about an "oopsie~daisy" litter. We got Skye about a week later and it was the best decision I ever made.

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Wow, Glengate - 8 - I can only imagine.

Thank you all so much for the input.  I do not have any "breeders" around here and those that are are in the local newspaper and I always stay away from them, you know the ones that advertise in the newspaper that allows the Free ads. I have been out and about and when I see a doberman I ask the people where did you find your dog they always come back with some back yard type breeder thing and I keep walking. It used to be around my area there were people with Nice dogs that would have a litter here and there and they were good dogs, family raised, both parents family dogs etc. but those people are all gone.

I did look into the American/European dobes and liked them but they were cost prohibitive at over 3,000 dollars. I was willing to go over a thousand maybe 2 but 3 that was alittle too high. However, their health was guaranteed and if there was ever any health issue come up unforeseen and you couldn't handle it they would take the dog back. That was interesting. And if you ever decided you couldn't keep the dog, they would take the dog back and insisted that you sign a waiver to that end, before they would even adopt out.

The Dober girl I had to relinquish when my hip broke was a European dobe.  I miss her so much.

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Talisin, It took me two years to "find" my Regan. I wanted a working dog, and after researching all the different choices, decided on my first choice of a Doberman. I located a local breeder from a listing with the Doberman Club of America and e-mailed her. She was in Florida at the time but had a litter due soon. We made an appointment to meet when she was back home. I told her I wanted a dog to work and rescue- not show. The litter that was due had both  show and a working lines- perfect! We met a few times. I met the pregnant "Mom" and the maternal grandfather of the litter-to-be. The breeder okayed me as a puppy recipient. I was ectastic! 13 pups were born- 11 were live births- 9 females , 2 males. (I really wanted a male, but would take a female depending on the temperment testing results). After they were tested twice, the breeder told me her choice, and the testers choice as a working pup. It was a male! I deferred to her wisdom. I had already been up to see and handle all the pups a couple times. They were ALL beautiful, healthy, socialized and immaculately kept pups. I was, to say the least, extremely excited and grateful that I would be honored with one of their pups.

I got Regan at 14 weeks- tail, declaws and ears cropped. The breeder presented me with a whole binder full of information on my pup- pedigree, dietary inro, breed info, etc. Evern puppy photos and his first little rick-rack colored ID collar!

 

He is my first Doberman, but will not be my last. He is a top-notch working dog with show conformation. The conformation is important, as his "way of going" impacts his perfomance in the field. I was fotunate to find the right breeder and the right puppy. I know that there are fantastic dobes out here waiting to be rescued. The Doberman Pinscher Club of America (DPCA) has a senior rescue program that places senior Dobes. These are the Dobes no one wanted- and they are beautiful, wonderful dogs. I wanted a particular dog for a particular job: in the future I may very well adopt one of these needy, loving senior Dobes.

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Thank you for that information.

I think I have found my girl. She is not a doberman however, as this group was so kindly explaining to me that with my physical limitations a less active breed might work better for my situation and several suggested a Rottweiler since there is rottie history in the doberman.

With that suggestion I looked into it and sometimes it is kismet. I have been searching for over a year for a doberman to no avail, but the minute I checked out the rottweiler sites - only one hour from my home is a pedigree rottweiler girl that has been classified as a good therapy dog candidate by the rescue organization that has her. She belonged to an elderly man who had a stroke and was moved to assisted living and couldn't keep her. She is 1-2 years old.

The marvelous thing is that this rescue foster parent has taken the time to borrow a pair of crutches and has poked at her with them, dropped them, walked all around her etc. and she showed no fear etc., she has started training her with a backpack for me - I mean this foster parent is so enthusiastic it is just amazing. I must admit I was so frustrated and aggravated by the doberman rescue that worked my area that I was about to just quit - the woman was argumentative and basically said I would not be a good doberman mom and that I needed to only pursue service dog organizations and get a lab or retriever, she paid no attention to what I was looking for, even asked me what my aversion to service dogs was as if I was doing something subversive it was weird, I thought I indicated I wanted a service dog mentality. But this rottie rescue is amazing.

I CANNOT THANK EVERYONE HERE ENOUGH FOR THEIR SUGGESTION OF A ROTTWEILER, I am now back in the excited mode about adopting.

I get to meet the rottie girl in a week or so when time permits for us to get together. And instead of my application getting lost 6 times in a year this rescue suggested they crutch test her before I even troubled myself with an application!! and they have kept my app as first in line for this girl.

I was surprised to see a thread on this forum about doberman people here being snobs - I totally disagree - everyone here is wonderful - regardless of whether you have a doberman, want one, or can't get one (me).  And if suggesting that someone be very careful about where they get their doberman and be careful about shipping etc. is considered being snobbish then I want to be snobbish cause everyone should be cautious cautious cautious about how and where they get their dog companions.

And in the future I am sure I will be looking back into dobermans and will definitely be looking at the senior rescues - I am more than willing to take a special need dobe and an age that is hard to adopt out. We all need love. But I will have to be a couple of dogs less in my household. Gee that would mean I would have a rottie and dobe - love it, love it......Who knows maybe in the future I could become a parent to one of your puppies that become available - I would love that. But seniors first.....

Thanks again guys, you have been a wealth of help and information, if it's ok with you I will remain in the group and let you know about the rottie and how its going here.

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Oh that sounds wonderful!  I'm so happy for you, I think kismit is the perfect description.  Please do keep in touch and let us know how it goes!

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yes please stay here and I am glad you have maybe found your girl- they call her Kee Kee Dee correct? We want to hear all about her and your times together!

So happy for you!

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Maybe you can rename your new girl, Kismet?  I agree, I don't want you to stop posting here and being a part of the group because a doberman didn't work for you.  I think its testiment of YOU that you could say no, even though you like the breed.  Just post her stories in the "Off-Topic Chit-Chat" so no one gets huffy (those elusive snobs, you know, are lurking here!)

I'm so sorry that the rescue group handled you wrong, it has been my experience that the people who run these organizations can sometimes be a little off.... I'm sure Wendy will agree.  I had to fight with one of the local SPCA heads here when I adopted a kitten from a foster parent directly after his neuter.  How dare I not fill out an APPLICATION!! and wait in line for 3 hours to MAYBE get this cat!! Hmm, gee, I think I was the one always loading her up with food donations, collars, leashes, blankets.  After 3 years of this relationship she couldn't trust me with a kitten..?

Anyway, big big congrats on this progress to you!

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lmao - of course, I salute you, and bow to the request to post in the off topic forum, I wouldn't want to dilute the breed talk ya know........ laughing laughing off to the Off Topic Board we go.....maybe I will become a rottie snob.........nah........so non-productive

Of course I would love to keep you up to date on us and thanks for remembering her name !!!! How wonderful you would remember.

YOu know I did have a Kismet he was a blind collie he did not work out the rescuer had to come get him - his bond with her was amazing and he became a biter because of his fear of not being in familiar surroundings - she had no issue with it and decided to keep him forever. I wish it had worked out for him, I was so willing to work with him but he grieved her and made himself sick - oh it was awful. I can't imagine not being able to see what is going on and yet having to trust that you are ok.

so love to see the laughter in this group it's rare that groups can keep a sense of humor......

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One of my favorite patients was a blind collie/pitt sort of mix.. he was remarkably easy going.  His first response to everything was a tail wag.  He would bump into a wall and start wagging his tail... always made me laugh.  I'm laughing right now just thinking of him.  And another dog, Remy, who was just OFF somehow... he was a seizure guy and would just ram into a wall and stand there until someone helped him figure out how to move on.

I think we're a pretty diverse group here -- many of us have more than just Dobermans so we want to hear all dog stories!  Just Don't DILUTE THE BOARD.. hehe.

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Where I worked, we had a sweet doberman named Candy that we saw for years.  She developed cataracs and was going blind.  The owner opted to have the specialist come in and do the surgery for her.  I'll never forget at discharge time when I brought her around the corner and she SAW her owner again.  It was incredible, we all got shivers from her reaction, and there wasn't a dry eye in the place.

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Do you live in Gulf Shores.  I live in Mobile.  Small world.

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It's definitely not easy to find a reputable breeder, but patience is key. Finding a breeder who sells puppies for a ridicious amount of money is probably a question and i'm talking about asking for $3,000 or something, but breeders who sell dobermans for like $250 is probably a bad sign as well.