Great litter of Euro line Doberman puppies due late September (AUSTRALIA)

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Hey guys! Just to let you know I have a litter of dobermann puppies due towards the end of September.

Not sure on numbers yet and there are a handful of people in the waiting on puppies currently. Sire is of Sweedish working lines and the mother is a German working line dog. Both have great high drives and the puppies are absolutely lovely, as always!

Click here for puppies for sale

Feel free to email me for best contact method :) Alternatively shoot me a msg on here :)

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Where is the health testing information on the parents of the litter?  The website was all flash and no substance.

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Thanks very much for that feedback.. It's been a while since I've done that and I no longer have the information, anything in particular you would be looking for?

I'm still new to the game :)

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I think I made it fairly clear that I was looking for the health testing information, didn't I?

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I don't have any certificates as such for my bitch, however feedback from the vet last time I went in was that she had a strong heart and was in great physical & mental condition.

My website does have a money back puppy guarantee on all health related issues as well incase you missed that?

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hmmmm, I believe a list of health issues that your dog/bitch has been tested for might be helpful.....some of these would be specific blood tests etc. that the vet won't do during a routine overall physical exam.....you say it's been a while since you did them, how long ago was that and what tests were done then, you should always know and be on top of that information I would think....glengate was clear as I read it.....

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Why would someone want a money back guarantee when there is absolutely nothing done to try to guarantee the actual health of the puppies?  The damage is done by that time, and giving money back doesn't take away the pain and heartbreak of dealing with a health problem that might have been avoided if you had been responsible enough to test the parents.  Do you think that giving the owner some money back is going to make a puppy feel better?  That it's going to cure its problem? 

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glengate, you seem to have a real stick up your ass, I'm asking you these questions as a newcomer to learn and become the best at what I do.

I have the puppy health guarantee because I have only bought from breeders that use high quality lines that do not have these issues, and I will only breed with similar level dogs.

But yes, I will get all the vet certificates when she is taken in next, I have no doubt she will be like all the other dogs she was bred from.

The guarantee is in place to say that I am 100% confident in the dogs the end buyer will be housing. So yes, me promising that to every puppy owner that buys their dog from me will make them feel better about purchasing.

My long term plan for the guarantee is to go one step further to cover vet bills for any genetic health related issues for the life of the dog (with the exclusion of old age.) I don't think any other breeder would have the balls to offer or even consider that.

If you're going to continue having a sook from here on in without offering any specific help, don't bother please.

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Hi SirMick, it looks like you are after mostly website feedback so please take this as my personal opinion(dog owner, has never shown/titled or breed) and constructive feedback,not critisism...

As a prospective puppy purchaser in Australia the first thing I would look for in a breeders website is membership/affiliations to the ANKC and any state run breed-specific dog clubs(ie. Doberman club of NSW in your case I think, this is mostly because they adhere to a code of ethics so i dont have to ask pointy questions about health testing/housing/feeding and litters per year and get you offside).
Then I would be after a mission statement about your experience with the breed  (showing/shutzhund/what titles you have personally achieved with your dogs/or even if you hunt or keep them as pets ect) and how you are aiming to further and improve the breed(increase drive for hunting dogs/improve temperament for companion dogs).
Then I look for profiles of your boys/girls which include titles (if applicable) and pedigrees as well as any heath checks that have been done specifically: hip and elbow dysplasia, von Willebrand´s disease (vWD), thyroid disease, genetic eye disease, normal cardiac function, and normal liver function(most sites usually give info on these health issues and say the dogs are tested,without posting the actual scores but are happy to produce certification upon request)

The above are things i see most often on well known breeders sites. Its great that you offer a guarentee similar to what i see some aussie breeders do(after-purchase advice/money back/puppy replacement/offer to rehome ect),it inspires confidence.
 

Hope this helps!

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Thanks you Manda'rin!

This is the information I was seeking! I have no doubts that the litter will sell, as people who know the bloodlines won't be asking me these questions, however, yes I do want to have the most comprehensive site which inspires pretty much every buyer that they have come to the right place to get their future furry family member from.

So yes it does help, I'm going to actually create a 'to do' list from your post and over the next year check off everything when I can.

Highly appreciate your positive and informative post!

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Please don't forget that i have NO breeding/doberman experience(apart from research pre- and 9 weeks of puppydom), i just merely compared your website to other sites i have seen when i was looking for my puppy.

You would benefit much more from asking(actual not implied) specific questions on forums like these with experienced members and remembering everyone has an opinion and not to take it as a personal attack, joining the ANKC or dog club and heading out to the dog shows to talk to other breeders about the wonder that is the doberman(if you have already not done so of course)

PS.I never researched bloodlines, instead i spoke extensively with a few breeders first. and i personally prefer a breeder with visible extensive health screening and the replace puppy from next litter/re-home option over money back(if given). A quote from the ANKC National code of Practice(worth a read) to ponder on:

Producing a puppy affected by an hereditary disease is not a crime, provided you have

made all reasonable efforts to avoid hereditary diseases. The (criminal)offense is in doing

nothing, before and after.