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Hello all ok so I already introduced myself. So this is Natalie/AKA Guinevere, so I have an 10 wk old puppy who's ears that I got cropped last Friday. Hmm I'm not feeling too good about this. This little girl is just beside herself uncomfortable!  I just don't understand it. I'm changing her bandages every two days. Her ears look pretty good, no swelling or funky smell. Just nothing out of the ordinary that I can see. Twenty yrs or so ago one of my female Great Danes had two litters and I don't remember any of those puppies hurting or being uncomfortable this long. 
I took her to a "specialist", all he does is ear crops, two and a half hours away from me. A couple of days after the surgery I started to become concerned because it seemed like her pain was not subsiding.  I took her to my vet and they told me that they were over dosing her on her pain medication, (Carprofen).  So they ran a full blood panel to check everything but mainly her liver and kidney functions. Luckily they were fine as she had only had four doses of the medication. They did say that she was anemic and thought that she might have an ulcer. The anemia is probably from the surgery and the ulcer???I assuming if she does have one that it's from the stress.   So we took her off the pain meds.  It was a 100mg pill that they quartered and I was to give her one quarter every twelve hours. So my vet put her Omeprazole10mg 1 pill every24hrs. My vet told me of someone here locally, whould have been good to know this a week ago and I'm going to try and get her in tomorrow. As I said before we cropped two litters of Great Danes and never had any problems like this. I just feel so so bad for. She is just miserable. Can Dobermanns be more sensitive then other breeds?  I don't understand!!

For one, I'd not cover the stitches past the first 24 hours. They really need to be exposed to the air to heal. Some of the discomfort is often itching. There is a good powder that you can puff on that helps with the itch..... and danged if I can remember the name of it! You can probably google it and find it. I always brought it home from the cropping vet I used for my 3 litters - she is also a Doberman show breeder in NJ. 

I've never had any real discomfort in the 3 litters that I had cropped past the first 24 hours, and that was really more the discomfort from anesthesia. The cup was wrapped in cotton for the first 24 hours and then taken off.  Puppies would mess with each others ears a little till they figured out that it hurt. after cropping, I always seperated them into small groups of 2 and 3 to lessen the chances of that. They were always on an antibiotic for a few days after, but not pain meds beyond the shot they were given by the cropping vet the day of. 

So, if your puppy is really in pain, I would be worried about it. 

 

For one, I'd not cover the stitches past the first 24 hours. They really need to be exposed to the air to heal. Some of the discomfort is often itching. There is a good powder that you can puff on that helps with the itch..... and danged if I can remember the name of it! You can probably google it and find it. I always brought it home from the cropping vet I used for my 3 litters - she is also a Doberman show breeder in NJ. 

I've never had any real discomfort in the 3 litters that I had cropped past the first 24 hours, and that was really more the discomfort from anesthesia. The cup was wrapped in cotton for the first 24 hours and then taken off.  Puppies would mess with each others ears a little till they figured out that it hurt. after cropping, I always seperated them into small groups of 2 and 3 to lessen the chances of that. They were always on an antibiotic for a few days after, but not pain meds beyond the shot they were given by the cropping vet the day of. 

So, if your puppy is really in pain, I would be worried about it. 

 

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For one, I'd not cover the stitches past the first 24 hours.

yes this bothered me too. I'm supposed to keep her head wrapped up until next Friday when she gets her stitches out. What?  I've been out of the "putting ears up" and taking care of cropped ears like I said for 15 or 20 yrs. 

So she is in a cone but I'd really like to take the wrapping off so that the air can get to it. I always put my puppies up in wracks and never had a problem with any of them. I never even put them in cones. And this was right after surgery. 
 

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For one, I'd not cover the stitches past the first 24 hours.

yes this bothered me too. I'm supposed to keep her head wrapped up until next Friday when she gets her stitches out. What?  I've been out of the "putting ears up" and taking care of cropped ears like I said for 15 or 20 yrs. 

So she is in a cone but I'd really like to take the wrapping off so that the air can get to it. I always put my puppies up in wracks and never had a problem with any of them. I never even put them in cones. And this was right after surgery. 
 

 

I have had 3 done in the past where the Vet liked to keep the ears wrapped until the stitches came out and about that many the other way where they were not wrapped so they could 'breathe'.

Different Vets use different methods. I could not tell a difference either way as far as healing times were concerned. If there was any difference it was minimal.

To not use a cone is asking for a paw to mess those stitches up. Only takes a second...

 

FWIW - I will never again schedule the removal of stitches for very first thing in the AM when they open. Had a girl one time do a quick headshake once they started taking the stitches out. Opened a tiny little spot that bled like a stuck pig and she flung it all over the Dr and poor assistant girl. Then when the girl tried to hold on a little tighter the dog pissed all over her.

Poor girl had only been at work for a half hour and was covered in pee and blood. Felt really, really bad for her... Those people do not get paid enough for some of the stuff they have to do.  

I've never had to put a puppy in a "cone" to keep them from scratching their ears - but I know that some will. The one thing my cropping vet always did was to cut the nails all the way back while they were under - so even if they scratched at their ears, there was not enough nail initially to do any damage.  My litters nails were never long to begin with as I started cutting them at 2 weeks of age and was dremeling them before they got their ears done. 

Let us know how your puppy does. 

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Ok well she is doing much better. I called the vet here in town who crops ears and he is on vacation and won't be back until Tuesday. In the mean time I've taken the wraps off of her head and cleaned her ears up and they look really good. The scabs are almost completely dry on the left but the right one needs to dry out a little more. Should I take the scabs off or leave them on?  I can't wait to get those ears posted and get that cone off of her. I've got so many bruises on the back of my calf where she keeps running into me. Little booger!  I know what you mean about nails. I took one of my Danes in to be neutered and I told them to nub his nails. He was a fawn and had dark thick nails. I'll be darned if they didn't just barely cut them. Your so right, what a perfect time to really get those nails short. When I got my little girl her nails had never been cut!  I just barely snipped the tips of and everyone bleed. Luckily she didn't even bat an eye. Thank you Fitzmar for your help,

Guinevere 

 

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I've never had to put a puppy in a "cone" to keep them from scratching their ears - but I know that some will.

Or rubbing the ears on whatever they can so they can scratch their itch without even using their paws.

I personally just love it when sitting around on the couch with one that just recently got cropped and she starts rubbing the side of her head on the cushion. (or the floor, rug, side of the crate, etc.)

I love the cones from Butler Animal Health that look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-aBsF9Jb5Y

They lock around the primary collar and if that is fitted properly they are not going anywhere once in place. You are essentially placing a barrier around all of the wounds that are healing and preventing anything from getting rubbed up against them except the cones (which can be easily and quickly cleaned). Keeping everything 'clean' while it is healing is good.

Not all of those type collars are created equal. There are many out there with thinner / different composition plastic that wont last for one dog and one set of ears. The good ones are built to last for a few dogs before needing replacement.

  

 

 

 

It's best to let the scabs fall off on their own..... which is really hard when you are a scab picker like me - LOL!

Keep cutting back the nails every 3/4 days so that the quick starts to recede - most people use dremels for nails now - you don't need a special one made for dogs.  I use a sand paper round - 60 grit.