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Hello everyone. My dear sweet Deville had his ears cropped last Wednesday. He was sent home with a pool noodle on top of his head that the ears were secured to then his ears were wrapped with a mesh like fabric and tied under his chin.  I was told not to take the wrapping off at all, if it came off I was to call them immediately. On Friday I noticed a smell, like stinky feet.  I contacted the vet and was told not to worry that what I was smelling was dried blood.  On saturday I went with my gut. I have been reading everywhere that the ears should not be wrapped due to infection.  I took the wrapping off and also removed his ears from the pool noodle.  I knew what I was going to find...my poor little guys ears were super infected.  I called the vet and was advised to bring him in the follwing morning.  I cleaned his ears very carefully with warm water and cotton swaps.  We went to the bet the next morning and they verified it was infection and put him on an oral antibiotic.  I have seen a big difference in him personally, he seems to be feeling better but the smell is still there. Today I removed the tape that was still on his ear and I am seeing that there is still a build up of "goop" in the base of his ear.  He is suppose to go back next Monday to get the stiches out.  Does anyone have any advice as to how I can care for my baby? Any good ways to clean the ear without getting the stiches wet?  Thank you in advance.

It always amazes me how many vets are so ignorant about basic common stuff - I wonder what the heck they are taught (or not taught) at vet school!

For one, cropping is not taught at vet school, and very very few vets are good at it - which is why good breeders travel far and wide to take whole litters to one of the few good cropping vets that exist. 

I HATE HATE HATE that people buy from breeders who then let them flounder about finding someone to crop their puppy. Ok, rant over. 

The oral antibiotics should take care of the infection - just leave the ears uncovered till the stitches are out AND the edges are healed. Posting can begin AFTER everything is healed. 

You can use some simple gauze to gently clean the ears - don't use rubbing alcohol or anything at this time. You may get some big scabs on the edge - don't worry about them - they will fall off. A little antibiotic ointment on the edge is ok, but don't overdo it.

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Rose, is now 7 months old. Since we have never bred any of our dobies, and she is our fourth one, we are very happy with "natural" ears. Happy and no discomfort

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I certainly agree with you. I wish I had done more research.  I thought I did a good job at researching but looking back I have regrets.  I love my Deville, nothing will change that but I wish I would have found this forum sooner.  

As far as the ear crop goes I thought I had done well with that too.  I searched, got references, had them send me pictures of ear crops etc.  His crop in itself looks good but the aftercare part is what I'm not happy about.  

He gets his stiches out on Monday and believe me if they try to post that day and I see any signs that the infection is still around or the ears are not healed completely I will not be allowing it.  I feel at this point thanks to this forum and other pages I have read that I have the knowledge to tell them how I want this process to move forward.  If I am not comfortable with him being posted that day I will not allow it. 

He did have some scabbing but they seem to be falling off.  I have not used anything other then warm water and cotton swabs.  I will clean them again this evening and put a little neosporin on the edges, just a touch as to help with his healing.

Thank you for taking the time to respond and help me with this.  I know that it is extremely frustrating to see these kinds of posts. I was worried about posting but I really wanted help and everyone here seems very educated.

Thank you again!

Depending on where you are, you might do better to find a breeder and/or experienced owner to help you post ears. It is not rocket science, but you do need help learning how to do it right. I would say that most vets offices leave posting up to vet techs who often are not very good at it at all. 

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The vet that I chose has a "consultant"basically that handles all the ear crops. She doesn't do the actually surgery but she is there during surgery. She is who I met with when I had his ear cropping consult. She is a retired Doberman breeder, she was a breeder for 20 years I was told.  Then again.....I am not having to great of an experience right now. I can't say that it is her, my experience has been mainly with the vets office itself.  

I will certainly be looking for a breeder in my area that can help me.  I have watched the video that Prima Dobermans has posted and it seems like a posting method that works well. I am leaning toward that but I am open to any and all suggestions. 

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How are the ears? Healed yet?

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Yes, they are healed. He had his stiches out yesterday.  They posted his ears yesterday and he seems to be doing fine. If I could figure out how to post a pic I would but every file I try to upload says its too large:(

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How are they having you post his ears? Our little girl did great with all the fussing during the 6 weeks we had to do her ears. I used witch hazel saturated on a flat round cotton make up remover pad. She didn't mind when I put my finger with that and cleaned out her ears. Helped with smell to. Sorry... What a scary thing!!!

 

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"Does anyone have any advice as to how I can care for my baby? Any good ways to clean the ear without getting the stiches wet?  Thank you in advance."

 

I like Dakins solution. You could hose your dogs ears down with it and not cause any irritation WHILE killing any germies.

 

Dakins not only kills the germies without causing any irritation (gentle as water), but it is also relatively non cytotoxic (it will not harm cells that are trying to heal).

If you got your dog in a position where you can get the ears 'wet' for a few seconds - You also got the dog in a position to where you can carefully dry / blot them back dry again.

 

That time period after you have had the crop done but before you get serious about posting is time that is best used getting your dog accustomed to you 'messing' with their ears. You do the dog no harm by checking / inspecting / cleaning if needed those things several times each day AND you get them comfortable with everything.

 

You want them to 'come' when they see you break out the ear supplies if you can help it.