SearchEar crop apt. set for his 9wk date
Hello all, I found a local vet who includes all after care in the cropping price up to the 12wk mark after the crop is done and if they are still not standing properly I only have to pay for the tape and posts for the additional postings(he said it's only around 5-8$). I had to go for an interview/consultation with him and have another to go to one week prior to the cropping appointment. I was thoroughly impressed as he explained all the different crops and the difference in care needed for each style. How the cropping is done, how long it takes, the different medication options, how often I will need to come back for posting, what the different stages of normal healing will look like, provided me with pictures of infected ears and different things that can go wrong and how they usually go wrong. Needless to say it dropped my stress level extremely.
I have decided to go with the show crop or med show crop. Not sure if those are the correct names but I want the tall slender looking ear. I'm actually kind of excited about the process now instead of dreading it.
If anyone cares to post some pictures of their show/long slender crops I would greatly appreciate it. If not I have found quite a few via Google images, but I think the more angles I have the happier the Dr will be.
Thanks Antonio
Yep you have a fawn a handsome one at that. I have a few pics of my cropped dobie I will post up later.
Sounds like you found a vet that knows his business and is knowledgable about doberman ear crops. Good for you. Vets like that are hard to find.
Thank you for your posts.
I look forward to seeing the pictures.
I have found quite a few on this site that are stunning.
I am very excited about the vet and hope it all goes as easy (yet tedious) as he made it sound. It seems like I may be able to learn a lot!
I'm anxious to see the pics that everyone has too....can some of you post your dog's ear pics, we love pictures......I would love to ooooo and ahhhhhh over them too...
I think it would be helpful since Antonio is looking for length to label the pics with whether they are medium or long, show or not, so he can decide which way to go.....
ok so I have moved his crop date 2 days sooner (Aug. 2nd) due to a business trip I have to make to Florida on the 7th. He will be coming with me and I wanted to give him the weekend to relax at home before heading out of town. I'm a bit nervous about surgery then trip so if there are any pointers someone can give me to ease his stress on the trip I would be very thankful. Oh and I will be driving down this time instead of flying so he will not have to deal with the added stress of crating.
Thanks in advance
Well that gives you about 5 days to come to terms with how he is handling post surgery days. I hope everything goes well, I keep checking in here to see the ear pics from everyone but haven't found any yet......have you tried looking at the individual pics under the Photo Gallery for each person you like their dogs ears??? I know those don't tell you which is medium or show etc. but you could copy and print the pics to take to your vet so he can get a feel for what you are looking for.... just an idea......
Here are a few different views of mine from different profiles. They both have a med-long show crop.
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and here is a picture that shows what happens when you dont take pockets seriously. the one on the left the ears are great standing perfect that is Paris, to the right would be a very young Romeo photo and you can see how his ears are leaning to the left well he has a terrible pocket in the ear and it still doesnt stand correctly. Another thing to note and learn from this photo is many people look at that picture minus the leaning ear and think they are done posting...you are not done. There should be no lean whatsoever in the ear as you can tell from looking at his mother Paris. Hers are straight with not even a slight lean on the tips.
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one thing that sets a show crop apart from the rest is you will note that when you look at these photos there is not a lot of base showing. This is to give the sleek elegant design to the look. From side profiles you will note how they follow the angle of the neck, front profile you will not ever see a mickey mouse ear that bells out at the base it is clean so when you look at the dog you see the dogs head not a mickey mouse crop that takes away from what the head, should be a blunt shaped wedge.
Last but not least my favorite headshot of Paris 
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OOOo Des.. Never enough photos of your Wild Child and my all time favorite Paris. She is beyond stunning.
Thank you for my RnDDoberman fix!!
rnddobermans: Thank you so much for the pictures they are beautiful, thanks also for the tip on pockets
Ok here I go - OOOOOOOO and AHHHHHHH and WOW! I love Rnd's dogs and Fitzmar, Gunslinger and so many others here, these are great pictures and I know you didn't want the lean in the ears but it gives him personality he's still handsome. Love the pics, and I agree with Lady Kate, Paris is tops.....and I can't get enough of seeing the pictures of your dogs either......
Thank you Kate and Talisin. The lean in the ear is not how the final product turned out merely an example of what to look for. Romeo's one ear that had the pocket is still a bit shorter than the other and because of cartilage problems we still deal with an occasional limp ear especially in the heat of the summer.
I still love to ooooo and ahhhhhh and I did find his ear lean to be a bit cute, although I am sure for you it was not a good thing. I know when my Wilbur had a stroke and it left him with a head tilt he was 18 years old and lived to be 23 but the head tilt everyone thought was just darling and cute but I was mortified because I knew what caused that head tilt and found nothing cute about it; so I didn't want you to think anything but that the picture was cute with the leaning ears.....he looks like he's in a big breeze where the other dog is not, glad that they almost worked their way out and that one stays normal most of the time. I tell you with the heat wave we have been having I would be "melting" in the heat too.....
Rnd, I get jealous every time I see your dober-photos. Your dogs are gorgeous!
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Sorry I can't be of more help. I decided early on to try to get a natural ear dober-baby. Sometimes I see pictures that make me think, "Should've done it." lol.
Okay so I dropped him off this morning for his ear crop. I was so torn having to leave him there... Yea I'm a bit attached. I printed the pictures of Paris's ears for the Dr. to use because I LOVE them, She is a beautiful dog! I decided to leave him in their care for 36 hrs because the animal hospital has a 24 hr staff for animals in recovery and the Dr. explained to me that if I were to take him like I normally do to work (Construction site) the possibility of him getting debris in his fresh stitched up ears is highly likely and would most likely cause complications. I am taking a half day tomorrow so I can go get him around noon. Dr. Robinson called me after the procedure was complete and explained that everything went extremely well and that he was confidant I would be highly satisfied with the results. Once again he seriously impressed me by calling me himself instead of just having a technician do so! I will try my best to get the pictures posted on this thread by 6 pm or provide a link to them if I have no luck reducing them to proper size. On a different note I'm not sure how well I'm gonna sleep tonight with out the little bugger next to me. Also the excitement to see his new look won't help either haha.
cant wait to see the photos and hear how things are going
Oh and the excitement builds as we all wait to see how the little fella looks after the crop. I love Paris' ears too and was hoping you would pick her crop. I am sure you are going to be lonely without your pupster but he will keep you busy in the next little bit so get some good sleep now....
can't wait for pics of the crop
Antonio, pics please!
Very interesting to read this post and I think your fawn pup is beautiful--were you looking for a rare color in a Doberman when you found him? I've never seen a fawn or blue in person, only reds and blacks. As for Paris, she is just a stunning dog. It shows what style the ear crop can add. I wanted to keep Jasmine's ears natural, but seeing such a lovely crop makes me appreciate that look, too.
Does anyone know if Dr. LA Bounty Offers different types of crops or is it just an all standard crop? I made robins appointment for aug 25. He will be 11 weeks this Thursday. I really liked the med long show crop.
Does anyone know if Dr. LA Bounty Offers different types of crops or is it just an all standard crop? I made robins appointment for aug 25. He will be 11 weeks this Thursday. I really liked the med long show crop.
Sorry, been super busy as usual. Here is a link to photos. I was not looking for a rare color just happened upon a kinda local breeder who had pups and when I went to visit fell in love. Not any good pics really after the crop but there is a few. I will say for the little I know about cropping they looked beautiful to me. Very clean lines and healed fast. Looked nasty while scabbed up but thats prob normal? The lack of pictures of was due to while in Florida I had little to no personal time besides sleeping and eating. The one photo of his ears taped and posted is because since we came home from the vet today when the first was done he is acting all weird. He seems to be embarrassed, as taking pictures he seemed to get more down :( the lil guy wont even play with me. He just sits around looking all sad and chewing his toys or napping. I suppose that will pass as he gets used to his new head gear.
Oh I will see how he is tomorrow about letting me take a few new pictures and add them to the link. I will let you all know as soon as I get new ones up.
What wonderful pictures!!! I love photo number 11 that one was too cute, they are all cute, he is a beautiful puppy. Not sure about posting but I have seen pics of a bridge between the ears so they don't tip to the outside of the head might ask some of the experts here about that since he has a longer crop......
Ok I will see if anyone chimes in about it, if not I'll be sure to find out ASAP
Hey there is actually a thread on this in the Doberman Ear section of the forum and there are pics of the dog with the crop you like showing what I am referring to might go in there an post about posting hahahahaa
Im not sure how long you have been posting but the bridge is mostly used only in the beginning as the dogs ears strengthen then the need to put the bridge in is not as important. If you were posting how I have to post because of the style of my crop then nothing would be in the base of the ear and you would have to brace the entire time. With my crop there is no base to hold the post in the ear so I have to wrap differently. If your puppy is able to hold the ears up and not let them hang to the side then you would not have to put a bridge in. Hope that helps maybe a few photos
This is his first posting. I put new closer pictures in his album. Previous sentence is the link. The first 8 pictures are the new ones. He has never let them droop from the position you see in the photos. I have noticed him move them in different positions as if he is moving them toward the direction of an unknown or new noise to him, so I know they are not in a fixed position. I wonder if the tape between his ears on the top of his head is some type of bracing? But I'm not sure how that would work. The chin strap seems a bit overboard and looks silly but guess there is some purpose to it... other than making him look like he is wearing bunny ears on a head band lol. Only thing I'm curious to find out is why the length of the postings are so long? His ears are about an inch and a half shorter than the length of the postings, or if the length of posting to ear length even matters.
Okay so please don't hate me because this took so long but here are some pictures. Also I will have some questions with the pictures, if you can help me at all I would greatly appreciate it.
This is what the postings from the vet and he has had them now since the surgery for the most part... What I mean by for the most part is they stay on 10-14 days then off till they fall or 3 days pass.
A little more recent posting by vet
Most recent posting by vet
The day the last posting came off. They held like this for 6 days....
Now :) they fell like this and I get no more free postings... so I need help
The breath right strips wont stick to save my life. I can't find sticky enough tape to post myself or honestly have the know how. Vet showed me once but... yea lol. The vet thinks they will stand up in a few weeks on there own?! Is that really possible?
no it is not posible for the ears to stand in a few weeks from this last photo you have posted. You need to get those ears posted ASAP. Breathe rite strips are not going to work in this situation (not yet) they need to be posted. You wont use breathe rites until they are much further along and only the tips are slightly droopy. When I use breathe rite strips I glue them in with surgical glue even with that your dogs ears are no where near being able to use that.
The tape I recommend and use nothing but is Johnson & Johnson brand tape and it is called Zonus. Ive ordered it by the case from our local pharmacy and have found it in single rolls at our local feed and farm store in the horse badaging section. You can also ask your vet office to purchase the tape by the roll from them. You might want to pay to have the vet show you once again and bring a camera or video tape it so you can follow exactly. It would be worth the money. The way your vet is taping is a little over kill when we tape it is only basically 3 strips. The elasitcon tape they use on the outside you do not need at all.
You paid a lot of money to have them cropped, put the dog through pain to do so and at this point it is up to you to follow through and make sure they do stand and learn how to tape properly.
Here is a link to a method similar to what I use very good details and photos. http://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cropping-posting/47747-ear-posting-directions-photo-tutorial-my-method.html again the vet wrap is optional it must be used with care. When I post I use 3 strips and most important tape the bottom first then then the middle then the tip. As I tape I hold the ears out at a 10 and 2 oclock position. making sure to pull up and stretch the ear all the while being taped.
Thank you for the link. I will take him to vet to have vet do it monday again along with my video camera. I will do my best with what tape I can find tomorrow at the farm supply in town and follow the link above. I had a feeling they werent right so thats why I asked here. Thank you again for the information and I'll get pictures up of what I do tomorrow. If it is good enough to not take him to vet please let me know, but I ask kindly to be brutaly honest about the taping I do. I would rather waste money on taping till I have it right than his ears to look dumb when this is all over. I seriously do not care if it takes 18+ months to get it right... I just don't want my buddy to silly :(
Well there you are!!!!!! long time no see!!!!! I still think he looks beautiful, I am sure you will get the hang of the posting and he will be stunning when his ears stand straight up. You have plenty of wonderful breeder advice on this subject so listen well and keep up the good work. He is so handsome, tell him Ben sends yodels!!!! don't be such a stranger, let us know how you two are doing.....
Well I lied... The farm supply here was closed when I got off at 6 tonight so I could not get the right tape. Now I'm a bit nervous that everything will be closed tomorrow due to voting.... I spent a few hours running to all the pharmacy type stores but most were closed. I'll get up early tomorrow and hopefully have some luck, gonna go to vet and see if they will sell it to me, they open at 7am. Taking Eko with in hopes I'll get lucky and they can fit me in and show me how to do it ASAP.
Talisin: thank you for the kind comments! I gave him a pat from Ben. We are doing well just covered up with work... A good thing for the bank account but not for my mind haha. Eko completed his puppy school like a breeze and the teacher had me skip beginner class and go strait to intermediate because she said the beginner is really meant for puppies that didn't catch on in puppy school. He is a goofy puppy that's for sure! The teacher always picks on me and Eko in class calling him the class clown. He gets bored with the repetitiveness of the class that is needed for some of the other dogs to catch on to the concepts, so he sits in the corner with me and acts a clown or watches the other owners and dogs and follows the commands given like he is saying hahaha see I can do it. Eko is also a "talker" if that can be possible. He makes these sounds like he is trying to talk... not whines, growls or barks just flat out weird noises like he is trying to tell you something. In class if the other dogs are not doing as told he will look at them and get as close as I will allow and talks to them as if he is trying to help them get it. It is really funny to watch and I wish I could video him doing to other dogs in class but she only allows still photos.
hahahahaah he really sounds like an entertainer, :)) I hope you can find your tape and can get to the posting before it's too late, some of the breeders here have great instructions on how to do this if you need info while the vet is closed......just ask away and they will help......He sure is a beauty he looks like he is going to be a large boy.......I still think he is such a cutie......just love him!!! How's his skin doing???
Got ears done at vet today so all is good there. His skin is confusing... he has bumps from about the knee down. The vet thinks that they are bug bites and took a little piece of skin off to send for testing he could not do in his facility. They checked for mites and something else in the office and said that was not the case. Dr. Robinson does not think it is one of the typical skin problems with blues or fawns. He said it is possibly some type of food allergy or some other allergic reaction, guessing that means some plant he may be getting in on our walks or in the yard. Ekos back hair was quite course but I have him on a daily regimen of omega fatty acids which has corrected the issue. HAHA you say a large boy... he is a freakin giant! at 5.5 months he is 62lbs and 25" at the withers... As tall and heavier than my friends female....
Wow, big boy for sure, can't believe he is that old already!!! He is so pretty, Ben says not to say pretty when talking about a male, hahahaha but that's ok it's meant in a great way :)) Ben's been losing a bit of weight to help with his joints but still weighs about 115 pounds, so I'm used to the big dogs, and it looks like Eko will be big doberboy.....
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Talisin's CrittersThat's great Antonio!! I am really pleased with all the research and care you are taking to make sure your puppy gets just the right care and food and toys, you are doing things right in my opinion and it sounds like you will have a very happy puppy. Can't wait to see the pictures of his crop and his new look, be prepared for an instant change in his look.......I am sure that Fitzmar, Rnd, Gunslinger, DJ's Dad and others can post some pics of their dogs ears for you to ooooo and ahhhhh over......