Follow up question about food re: peas and sweet potatoes

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So we have been through several foods still looking for the right one. The Annamaet made him gassy and he had terrible dark, runny poo. I am pretty sure he can't do salmon, he tried Purina Pro Plan Savor with probiotics, and that one made him super smelly, runny poo, itchy, eye goobers, etc, and it had salmon, too. We tried Blue Buffalo chicken and rice, but he still had not solid poo. Currently feeding Diamond chicken and rice, which doesn't cause bad gas or itching, until I pick a new food. I suspect that he is actually allergic to grain. Also, He will sneak over and eat horse poop sometimes! I remember we fed Dobie Taste of the Wild High Prairie, and he seemed good on that, so maybe that will work for Moony? My concern now is that I have read that peas and sweet potatoes are not good for their hearts? It's in most of the foods, and going grain free on top of those ingredients worries me, especially after losing Dobie to heart issues. Is this an actual cause for concern, or another thing you hear and is later determined to be nonsense?

 

Remember that you need to transition slowly to new foods and it takes awhile to see if it will work for them - give it 30 days. 

Some dogs need a single protein kibble - it can be hard to know what to feed.  For the most part, Dobermans are ok with grain free as their DCM is not diet induced - its genetic.  What we don't know is if a grain free diet could contribute to DCM in Dobermans.  It is why I don't feed excluesively grain free. 

If I were you, I'd consider finding a limited ingredient kibble with only one source of protein. Not sure who has those right now. 

What does your Vet say about all this? Has he had blood workup, been wormed, etc... 

It's very frustrating for sure. Keep trying!!

Also, some Doberman people swear by Pro Plan sensitive stomach - might be worth a try. 

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Thanks! I now think that I was feeding him too much, I was feeding three times a day 1 1/4 -1 1/2 cups each meal. Switched to twice a day, 1 1/2 cups per meal, and he has had normal looking poos the last two times. I stopped giving him canned pumpkin, and he hasn't been gassy. Hopefully this continues, because I stocked up on his current food, in light of the state of things going on in the world right now. But I am still going to use my vast amount of time stuck at home to research food. That should kill a LOT of time, at this rate!

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because I stocked up on his current food, in light of the state of things going on in the world right now.

 

Same here...

 

I got at least 5 months of food for my girls + all of their normal treats / food addition stuff that they get routinely stocked. 'Used' to keep a few months worth but bumped it up to 5.

Also had their annual checkup and heartworm testing done a month early and got them both their preventatives for the coming year. :)

 

A few particular items I stocked up on for mine because of this mess were canned green beans and packets of brown gravy mix. Used to keep 4 to 8 cans but bumped it up to 20 or 30 and several boxes of the gravy packets.

They absolutely LOVE green beans. Raw, cold, right out of the can or... Make some instant brown gravy and pour that over the green beans and kibble... When they see that sort of stuff going into their bowls they suddenly become big black remote control dogs until told they can have it / eat! :)

The first several times I tossed green beans in the bowl for my rescue dog here she pretty much kicked that junk out of the way and ate around it. She had no problems with either of the Dober girls coming over after she was done with the kibble and gettting those green beans she tossed out of the bowl at first.

Rescue dog would get ugly over a single green bean piece currently if another dog tried to come steal it. :)

 

Canned green beans have been unobtainium for several weeks now and when they do show up on the shelves it has been the much more expensive brands that I would have never bought before and very few of them. (fortunately my Dober girls can't read labels and are just as happy with the store brand can of green beans that costs 50 cents as the other brand can of the same stuff that costs twice as much)

Same with the gravy packets. Sparse with mostly only expensive stuff normally available now.

Last few trips to where I get their kibble I noticed zero 'big' bags. They used to have 10 - 20 bags of what I normally buy stacked up at least but not recently. Plenty of the smaller bags in pretty much every brand they normally carried but the bigger bags were gone.  

 

 

 

 

Doberman Guy - I feed canned green beans too and my 3 all love them. I do buy the ones with no salt - which can be hard to find right now.  I also alternate with no salt mixed veggies, but those are really hard to find right now, so green beans it is!  I feed fresh fruit in the mornings - a small handful of  blueberries or a couple of sliced strawberries... sometimes sliced apples or pears.  Veggies are just easier to do canned.  They do get leftover veggies from our dinner too.  Tonight it was cesar salad - they all like it - HAHA!

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Moony just has a crazy sensitive stomach. The one time I gave him banana, he got diarrhea! And he will eat literally anything he can, I've found bits of twigs in his poo, and have to watch him around any toys, cat vomit, basically anything on the ground! The litter boxes are not safe, either, I've never had a dog that did this. Hoping he will grow out of the desire to do this. He knows he isn't supposed to, but he also knows if I take my eyes off him, and he's FAST! Since I've reduced him to two 1 1/2 cup meals a day, his poo is sold. And they aren't shockingly big like they were. So hoping he will be good to stay on this food, as we are getting all our pet supplies from Amazon because I can't go anywhere. ☹️

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Fitzmar - Very much agree about the no salt added stuff. They just don't 'need' it...

Also do some fruits with mine. I have a small strawberry patch right outside the side door and 'used' to pick those myself.

The girls pick them before I can now! LOL! :)

 

 

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Im trying the raw diet after a bit of adjustment time as I just got him from the breader.  Thank you for the ideas, Ill stock up on green beans.  Does anyone know about sweet potatos?  I was warned about copper in fish and sweet potatos.  Is that a real concern?

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Also, can I combine feeding methods?  Raw and some kibble (Victor - active).

I just have no experience in raw feeding, so really can't help you. I will say that you should find a raw feeding group on line to help you with this.  Raw feeding can be great, but done wrong it can be a disaster. 

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Thank you